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philip964 wrote:In case you had any doubts, the shooter was seeing a psychiatrist who specializes in Schizophrenia.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-shoot ... BNdI_WBpyc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I assume she will be sued.

So do you become a psychiatrist, and risk that every patient you see, will go and do something "crazy" and you will be blamed?

She has already been named in at least one suit, but no one that I've heard talk about it on television thinks she will be held liable.

philip964 wrote:In case you had any doubts, the shooter was seeing a psychiatrist who specializes in Schizophrenia.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/colorado-shoot ... BNdI_WBpyc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I assume she will be sued.

So do you become a psychiatrist, and risk that every patient you see, will go and do something "crazy" and you will be blamed?

Well, obviously precious little Mr. Holmes will soon be taking heavy doses of prescription meds and doing "art hour" and working on improving his inner self, all at taxpayer expense...meanwhile, several folks are gone from this earth before their natural end would have taken them, and many family's lives are shattered...and WE, the law-abiding gun owners, have to put up with yet another round of collectivists, statists, and hoplophobes trying to infringe on our rights...THIS is why I'm not a very good Christian, unfortunately, because SOMEBODY is at fault for this and I REALLY want them to get what's coming to them...and I tend to hold the man responsible as the one who pulled the trigger!

Jaguar wrote:

smoothoperator wrote:

Jaguar wrote:Maybe there was not an appropriate moment or situation for those that wanted to - to do so. I will not disparage anyone in that horrible event, but allow me to point out some heroes.

I wonder if the married guy who died protecting his girlfriend had good life insurance for his wife and their two kids.

People earn the Medal of Honor for such courage and self-sacrifice in the military.

Can you give me a few examples? I'm familiar with many MOH stories where they closed with and destroyed the enemy at great risk to themself. I don't know any where they were honored for jumping on the person next to them as a human shield. There may be some but I don't know any.

Hola Gato wrote:

Jaguar wrote:

smoothoperator wrote:

Jaguar wrote:Maybe there was not an appropriate moment or situation for those that wanted to - to do so. I will not disparage anyone in that horrible event, but allow me to point out some heroes.

I wonder if the married guy who died protecting his girlfriend had good life insurance for his wife and their two kids.

People earn the Medal of Honor for such courage and self-sacrifice in the military.

Can you give me a few examples? I'm familiar with many MOH stories where they closed with and destroyed the enemy at great risk to themself. I don't know any where they were honored for jumping on the person next to them as a human shield. There may be some but I don't know any.

There's this one. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348169,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's not exactly jumping on the person to shield them, but should be good enough. I think this was the inspiration for that scene in Act of Valor.

Hola Gato wrote:

Jaguar wrote:

smoothoperator wrote:

Jaguar wrote:Maybe there was not an appropriate moment or situation for those that wanted to - to do so. I will not disparage anyone in that horrible event, but allow me to point out some heroes.

I wonder if the married guy who died protecting his girlfriend had good life insurance for his wife and their two kids.

People earn the Medal of Honor for such courage and self-sacrifice in the military.

Can you give me a few examples? I'm familiar with many MOH stories where they closed with and destroyed the enemy at great risk to themself. I don't know any where they were honored for jumping on the person next to them as a human shield. There may be some but I don't know any.

How about jumping on a grenade to shield your team members from the blast. Same thing. Three of the four men awarded the MOH for actions in Iraq dove on a grenade to save their brothers.

Michael A. Monsoor

Ross A McGinnis

Jason Dunham

Jumping on the shooter and stopping them would be like jumping on a grenade. Jumping on your bunkmate doesn't do anything to stop the threat to anyone else.

Hola Gato wrote:Jumping on the shooter and stopping them would be like jumping on a grenade. Jumping on your bunkmate doesn't do anything to stop the threat to anyone else.

What is your point?

If you can't see the difference, I could write volumes and it wouldn't enlighten you any more than my simple statement.

Hola Gato wrote:If you can't see the difference, I could write volumes and it wouldn't enlighten you any more than my simple statement.

How about enlightening us, since we're so dumb and all?

Hola Gato, first you said:

Hola Gato wrote:Can you give me a few examples? I'm familiar with many MOH stories where they closed with and destroyed the enemy at great risk to themself. I don't know any where they were honored for jumping on the person next to them as a human shield. There may be some but I don't know any.

You were then provided w/ multiple examples when the MOH was awarded for actions akin to a human shield. You then replied:

Hola Gato wrote:Jumping on the shooter and stopping them would be like jumping on a grenade. Jumping on your bunkmate doesn't do anything to stop the threat to anyone else.

Would jumping on that grenade "stop" the grenade thrower? No, additional grenades could be thrown, it's an act that shields others from the immediate threat. ...and you could write volumes?

I'll just guess...


Virginia Tech, Aurora etc, some laid on top of people laying on the floor to shield them from bullets, that didn't do anything to stop the shooter shooting others

Some at VT tried to fight back against the shooter, they were unsuccessful, but tried to protect more than the one person the others covered, by stopping the threat.

Jumping on a grenade (assuming there's only one grenade, which it may or may not be) may not stop the grenade thrower, though it attempts to minimize shrapnel which can harm many people.... still doesn't stop the thrower.

Jumping on a person to shield them is less predictive of harm than jumping on a grenade though,

Don't make me think ... it's the weekend.

WildBill wrote:

Hola Gato wrote:Jumping on the shooter and stopping them would be like jumping on a grenade. Jumping on your bunkmate doesn't do anything to stop the threat to anyone else.

What is your point?

I understand the difference you're trying to make, but can't you also see the similarity?

Hola Gato wrote:If you can't see the difference, I could write volumes and it wouldn't enlighten you any more than my simple statement.

Stop now. This is your first and last warning.

Chas.

I have tiny kids right now, but lets fast forward a few years to the time when they can run. I have no problem jumping on top of a madman into certain death so they can get out. I would prefer to watch them marry and have children from this side of eternity, but if it is needful I will gladly do it from the other side. I imagine if two people grabbed him from his 6 oclock it would take him at least a few minutes to kill them and in that time your children might be able to escape.

but Cali something tells me, you wouldn't have taken your littles to see Dark Night in the first place.....(just sayin)

(what were those little ones doing in there?)