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srothstein wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:07 pm

Killadocg23 wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:08 am

tomneal wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:15 am

Masks only work when you make ‘the other guy’ wear one.There is a secret one way nanotechnology in your cloth neck gaiter that only stops #MuhDroplets on the way out, but won’t protect me from breathing them IN, if I wear one. So you must wear a mask to protect me, even if you already had and recovered from the Kung Flu or are fully vaccinated. This is because #TrumpsFault and also Stormy emoluments of collusive traitorous insurrections.

I was confused before. After reading this, I completely understand.

I am still very confused by his post.

What is being pointed out, though in a humorous fashion, is the fact that a cloth mask cannot protect you from catching the virus. There are several reasons for this, such as the fact that a cloth mask does not seal to the face and the virus bug is smaller than the filtering capability of the mask. Add in that the mask doesn't cover the eyes or protect other susceptible tissues from exposure and you can see how it cannot protect the wearer from exposure. Ask any vet who went through military training for combat in an NBC or CBR environment and they will fully understand this. If they went through in the 70s or 80s like I did, see if they can describe MOPP IV gear to you. It was the protective gear for a contaminated area.

But, a mask does protect others from a person who is contaminated. When you breathe, if you have the virus, it is exhaled contained in the moisture droplets in your breath. The water droplets are so much larger than the virus that they can be stopped by the mask. Obviously, this is based on the assumption that the person wearing the mask actually has the virus. This is not usually true but it explains why you heard so many people yelling about you not knowing if you had the virus or not and how you could transmit it without being symptomatic. They had bought into the masks and needed to believe this to convince you to wear a mask. It also ignores the report that a cloth mask does not necessarily stop water droplets but might just break them up into smaller drops which enhances the transmission of the virus. This report was dropped quickly from the news and the urge to wear multiple layers of masks pushed instead.

So we have no evidence that a cloth mask protects the wearer at all. And there is no way a mask can protect others from a person who does not have the virus. But a mask might offer some protection to others if the wearer happens to have a virus, but it is not guaranteed at all.

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

srothstein wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

I plan on continuing the exact same behavior that I have had for a year, I will wear a mask when required. The sole difference is that I will now be doing it because a store owner asked me to do so on their private property instead of a government mandate. I do believe that you, or any person or corporation may make the rules for your private property. My choice is if I want what you offer badly enough to wear a mask to get it or if it is not that important to me. Your choice as a business owner is if you want to sell to me badly enough to let me in without a mask or not. If people still want to practice their anti-social distancing (the correct name - social distancing ranges from holding my wife while we dance to being close enough for a quiet conversation and shaking hands), I will stay a safe distance away from them.

I decided last year that wearing a mask or not was not the hill I wanted to die on (as the expression goes) and it still isn't. I know the science behind masks and the obvious flaws in its logic. I also try to act civilized (realizing it is just an act and my preferred behavior) so I am polite and do not cause trouble by trying to force anyone else into my belief system. I may try to convince you in a polite discussion but I respect your right to have a different opinion than me. So, feel free to practice any rules you want to keep you safe. I will also do the same and will respect your wishes. I feel that this is how civilized people should act.

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

This logic, or lack thereof, is why a mandate was needed to begin with.
There are many reasons why your breathing on me while you are not wearing a mask is more unhealthy for me, whether I'm wearing a mask or not. I believe you're smart enough to know this.

Go troll someone else.

Killadocg23 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:49 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

This logic, or lack thereof, is why a mandate was needed to begin with.
There are many reasons why your breathing on me while you are not wearing a mask is more unhealthy for me, whether I'm wearing a mask or not. I believe you're smart enough to know this.

Go troll someone else.

Agree 100% with this. All the anti masker stay away.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:11 pm

Killadocg23 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:49 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

This logic, or lack thereof, is why a mandate was needed to begin with.
There are many reasons why your breathing on me while you are not wearing a mask is more unhealthy for me, whether I'm wearing a mask or not. I believe you're smart enough to know this.

Go troll someone else.

Agree 100% with this. All the anti masker stay away.

Maybe it is you who needs to stay away from those not wearing a mask. There is little difference in a person who thinks anyone not wearing a mask is worthy of scorn and a person who thinks wearing a mask in a store that requests it is a violation of their rights. Both are Nazis. Both have a feeling of self importance that resembles narcissism. Respect peoples right to decide for themselves what is right for them. If you are uncomfortable around those not wearing a mask, you probably should refuse to shop where a mask is not required. If you feel wearing a mask violates your rights, you need to stay out of places that require a mask.

If the store requires a mask to enter, one should respect their rights and wear one. If the store has no requirement to wear a mask, one should respect their right in this situation as well.

I just got back from a Tom Thumb store. They had a sign on the door requiring a mask. They also played repeatedly over the loud speaker that a mask was required. I kept a mask on while in the store. Their store, their rules.

Killadocg23 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:24 pm

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:11 pm

Killadocg23 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:49 pm

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:40 am

03Lightningrocks wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

This logic, or lack thereof, is why a mandate was needed to begin with.
There are many reasons why your breathing on me while you are not wearing a mask is more unhealthy for me, whether I'm wearing a mask or not. I believe you're smart enough to know this.

Go troll someone else.

Agree 100% with this. All the anti masker stay away.

Maybe it is you who needs to stay away from those not wearing a mask. There is little difference in a person who thinks anyone not wearing a mask is worthy of scorn and a person who thinks wearing a mask in a store that requests it is a violation of their rights. Both are Nazis. Both have a feeling of self importance that resembles narcissism. Respect peoples right to decide for themselves what is right for them. If you are uncomfortable around those not wearing a mask, you probably should refuse to shop where a mask is not required. If you feel wearing a mask violates your rights, you need to stay out of places that require a mask.

If the store requires a mask to enter, one should respect their rights and wear one. If the store has no requirement to wear a mask, one should respect their right in this situation as well.

I just got back from a Tom Thumb store. They had a sign on the door requiring a mask. They also played repeatedly over the loud speaker that a mask was required. I kept a mask on while in the store. Their store, their rules.

I do actually. I stay away from the anti maskers. Walmart here has a mask policy but some of the anti maskers still don’t follow the rules. And when I am checking out they tend to be “right up” on me. It’s annoying as ever. I don’t look for confrontation though especially when I am carrying my gun.

We do agree on most points though.

03Lightningrocks wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:48 pm And so it begins. 60 year old woman decides to be a trespassing test case. From body cam footage the cop gave her a chance to get a mask and come back to get her money out. Then he gave her the chance to leave. At that point she went full blown George Floyd on him. She must not have gotten the memo that only felons are allowed to resist arrest. She failed to shout, "I can't breath". One must know the rules before fighting with a cop.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-woman- ... nk-bodycam