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Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:54 am
by waffenmacht
"Chavez was left paralyzed from the waist down"

I think thats a typo, should read: Chavez was left paralyzed from the waist up

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:06 am
by barres
waffenmacht wrote:"Chavez was left paralyzed from the waist down"

I think thats a typo, should read: Chavez was left paralyzed from the waist up
No it was correct, but it left out the pertinent information: Chavez was left paralyzed from the waist down because he was already paralyzed from the neck up.

[Forrest Gump] Stupid is as stupid does. [/Forrest Gump]

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:55 pm
by flb_78
The judge dismissed the case.

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Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:37 pm
by WildBill
flb_78 wrote:The judge dismissed the case.
Good decision IMO. :patriot:

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:34 pm
by tacticool
I hope the company can collect their legal costs from the grossly negligent person.

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:13 pm
by OldCannon
tacticool wrote:I hope the company can collect their legal costs from the grossly negligent person.
LOL. Not in California, IIRC, it doesn't work that way.

A real pity too. I'm 90% convinced that a litigant in a civil suit should post bond for the legal costs, or file some sort of a pre-trial motion that the lawsuit exhibits reasonable cause to be in favor of the litigant. Then again, I'm not a lawyer...not even remotely close. I'm more like the court jester (no pun intended :biggrinjester: )

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:18 pm
by Hoi Polloi
"The defense had argued that Chavez admitted he forgot the gun was in the back seat when he put his son in the truck."

It was loose in the back seat! Unbelievable.

My husband said he should have sued the truck manufacturer for not having bullet-proof seats, too. :smilelol5:

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:40 am
by KinnyLee
Only safety is what's between one's ears. Apparently that's not working either. :grumble

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:21 am
by Excaliber
Hoi Polloi wrote:"The defense had argued that Chavez admitted he forgot the gun was in the back seat when he put his son in the truck."

It was loose in the back seat! Unbelievable.

My husband said he should have sued the truck manufacturer for not having bullet-proof seats, too. :smilelol5:
The officer involved is a poster child for the observation that ignorance can be remedied with education, but stupid is forever.

He may also have committed a crime. According to the California Attorney General's web site:

"You may be guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony if you keep a loaded firearm within any premises that are under your custody or control and a child under 18 years of age obtains and uses it, resulting in injury or death, or carries it to a public place, unless you stored the firearm in a locked container or locked the firearm with a locking device to temporarily keep it from functioning."

I fail to see a cause of action against Glock for the results of the officer's own negligent and quite possibly criminal conduct.

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:12 am
by WildBill
Excaliber wrote:The officer involved is a poster child for the observation that ignorance can be remedied with education, but stupid is forever.

He may also have committed a crime. According to the California Attorney General's web site:

"You may be guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony if you keep a loaded firearm within any premises that are under your custody or control and a child under 18 years of age obtains and uses it, resulting in injury or death, or carries it to a public place, unless you stored the firearm in a locked container or locked the firearm with a locking device to temporarily keep it from functioning."
It's quite possible the father would be charged if the person injured was someone other than the father.

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:15 am
by seamusTX
What would be the point? I think they guy probably got the memo by now, and I rather doubt that he is currently authorized to carry a handgun.

This whole episode is just further proof that laws do not prevent either crimes or negligent mishaps, and LEOs are not immune from mental flatulence.

We can only hope that others learn from his example.

- Jim

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:22 am
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:What would be the point? I think they guy probably got the memo by now, and I rather doubt that he is currently authorized to carry a handgun. - Jim
I don't know if he did get the point. If he is suing Glock and Uncle Mike's, he is still trying to blame someone else and not taking responsibility for his own actions.

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:26 am
by seamusTX
That suit was initiated two years ago. That's rather quick for resolution of a civil lawsuit.

I know it's an anecdote and not statistics, but I was on a civil jury in a case where the initial incident had occurred five years earlier. The case record was literally a foot high.

- Jim

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:33 am
by WildBill
seamusTX wrote:That suit was initiated two years ago. That's rather quick for resolution of a civil lawsuit. I know it's an anecdote and not statistics, but I was on a civil jury in a case where the initial incident had occurred five years earlier. The case record was literally a foot high. - Jim
This was in California. They are known for their speedy trials. :mrgreen:

Re: LAPD officer shot by his son sues gun maker

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:01 pm
by RiverCity.45
:iagree: I suspect that is precisely what is going on. Toss in a plaintiff's attorney promising big payoff, and we have a lawsuit.