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dleewo wrote: It's actually a bit disheartening seeing all these lines being drawn in the sand between liberals and conservatives.

This one is my favorite of all. For the last few years of the Bush presidency the democrats in congress made it impossible for our government to do anything positive. All they cared about was getting a liberal into the white house. They systematically tore this country apart to achieve their goals. They darned near took it too far and almost lost control of the collapse they caused...yes...the democrats did this. Divide and conquer was the democrat mantra. Now they want to have a kumbaya moment????? Holly cow....you got to be kidding me!!!! The socialist party wants me to just give up and help them achieve their goals!!!! Are you kidding me???? In one year and 6 months we WILL take our country from the Eurosocialist congress. Two years later we WILL correct this horrible mistake of a president. The O is headed the same direction as Carter.

/disapproves of this thread

dleewo wrote: For example, I'm pro-gun, BUT, I'm also pro-choice. These are probably the two most polarizing issues. When I vote, I have to decide which one I believe in most and I decided to come down on the pro-choice side.

If this is true, you kind of duffed that one. McCain is pro-choice.

USA...you screwed up the quote you made and it looks like I voted for that Socialist pretty boy. Could I get you to correct that please?


Corrected......The world is good again. I can't even imagine the humiliation of one of my business associates thinking I was a socialist. That would be it for me. Living my whole life believing in hard work and earning my way would suddenly all be a lie. I want no free cheese thank you....and I will choose to whom I give my extra cheese.

now i screwed it up bad... it looks like i said i voted for him...which i did not!!!

for the record: 03Lightningrocks did not vote for obama

and neither did i

Does it really matter who anyone voted for? Both national parties spend like theres no tomorrow.

Frost wrote:Does it really matter who anyone voted for? Both national parties spend like theres no tomorrow.

The only real difference is who gets taxpayers money: Corporations that don't deserve it, or welfare moms who don't deserve it.

I see none have yet risen to the challenge of trying out a solution. We have had an argument "ad hominem". (And btw, I am not an 'ist. I don't feel any more qualified to say who has what, than anyone else here does. In fact, one of my gripes about our state's current CHL process is that it is way too expensive. And I also think that there are a lot of bad judgment issues that prohibit people from getting a license that should not do so.) And no, I am not your neighbor. I have way too many guns in house to qualify. And then we degenerated into the bash Obama drivel.

I would like to see some constructive attempt to get the assumptions and issues out .so they can be thought about without name calling or any of the other bad propaganda devices.

B3XD wrote:I see none have yet risen to the challenge of trying out a solution. We have had an argument "ad hominem". (And btw, I am not an 'ist. I don't feel any more qualified to say who has what, than anyone else here does. In fact, one of my gripes about our state's current CHL process is that it is way too expensive. And I also think that there are a lot of bad judgment issues that prohibit people from getting a license that should not do so.) And no, I am not your neighbor. I have way too many guns in house to qualify. And then we degenerated into the bash Obama drivel.

I would like to see some constructive attempt to get the assumptions and issues out .so they can be thought about without name calling or any of the other bad propaganda devices.

boy this has gotten way too political ,i respect that everyone has their opinions and im not trying to make enemies , i admit having some fun at your expense and for that i do apologize . i hope there will be no hard feelings

usa1 wrote:now i screwed it up bad... it looks like i said i voted for him...which i did not!!!

for the record: 03Lightningrocks did not vote for obama

and neither did i

I did the same thing I ask you to correct. Fixed...LOL.

nitrogen wrote:

Frost wrote:Does it really matter who anyone voted for? Both national parties spend like theres no tomorrow.

The only real difference is who gets taxpayers money: Corporations that don't deserve it, or welfare moms who don't deserve it.

Or from a Libertarian perspective. No one gets it!

Liberty wrote: Or from a Libertarian perspective. No one gets it!

That would be my perspective. So how do we take our country back from the politicians? With every "free cheese" program, they get more and more power over the citizens. I am reaching my limit with all of them. Forum rules require I stop at this point.