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How anti-climactic but nevertheless a good result.

joe817 wrote:Wonderful report YabuUS! Thanks for sharing that with us. The LEO knew he said something he shouldn't have, and it seems in a round about way, apologized for that foo pa pa(I don't know the correct spelling, but I think it's french, lol).

I'm glad you had a private talk with him to set him straight. He sounds like a pretty good guy, all things said.

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Glad to hear it went well and the Officer acknowledged that wasn't the best idea.

Shorts wrote:

joe817 wrote:The LEO knew he said something he shouldn't have, and it seems in a round about way, apologized for that foo pa pa(I don't know the correct spelling, but I think it's french, lol).

faux pas

Yeah, it's properly "faux pas" but somehow "foo pa pa" just seems so much more appropriate....

Faux pas

Anyway, could he have been explaining that a neighborhood watch might be like a security team and without the proper licenses weapons could not be carried?

quidni wrote: Yeah, it's properly "faux pas" but somehow "foo pa pa" just seems so much more appropriate....

And MUCH funnier.

quidni wrote:

Shorts wrote:

joe817 wrote:The LEO knew he said something he shouldn't have, and it seems in a round about way, apologized for that foo pa pa(I don't know the correct spelling, but I think it's french, lol).

faux pas

Yeah, it's properly "faux pas" but somehow "foo pa pa" just seems so much more appropriate....

I always thought it had something to do with passing gas. But I grew up out in the country and cows don't pay much attention to that.

C-dub wrote:Faux pas

Anyway, could he have been explaining that a neighborhood watch might be like a security team and without the proper licenses weapons could not be carried?

As friendly as this officer was after the meeting, I don't think he is that well informed about CHL holders. When he said CHL holders should leave their weapons at home while on these security patrols I think he was concerned that someone might try to play cop and take matters into their own hands instead of just reporting things to the police. I don't think he was implying any more than that.

YabuUS wrote:

C-dub wrote:Faux pas

Anyway, could he have been explaining that a neighborhood watch might be like a security team and without the proper licenses weapons could not be carried?

As friendly as this officer was after the meeting, I don't think he is that well informed about CHL holders. When he said CHL holders should leave their weapons at home while on these security patrols I think he was concerned that someone might try to play cop and take matters into their own hands instead of just reporting things to the police. I don't think he was implying any more than that.

Does this not bring up the question of CHL holders acting as security guards and the problems that might present to them?

You're a good person for following this thing through. I am glad it worked out amicably.

I agree with the above sentiment that if you're acting as "security" you can't be armed.

If, however, you're walking around your neighborhood with a flashlight, so you don't trip over stuff, at night, because that's when it's cooler outside and easier on the joints, then I would say, "Pack'em if ya Got'em."

big difference between a Neighborhood Watch and Brinks, or Yale Security...

I would advise this, though, that one should hit the phone before the gun, and leave the intervening to the folk that get paid to do it. (unless the sichy-ation goes "pear shaped" too fast)

I think the officer was correct. I cant quote the law at this moment, but i know that you cannot legally carry while actively acting as a "security" type team, ie: neighborhood watch on patrol.

Unless of course the organization and yourself are licensed and commissioned.

dihappy wrote:I think the officer was correct. I cant quote the law at this moment, but i know that you cannot legally carry while actively acting as a "security" type team, ie: neighborhood watch on patrol.

Unless of course the organization and yourself are licensed and commissioned.

This thread discusses a CHL carrying a gun on a voluntary security or safety team (in the context of a church) at great length. It also cites the relevant statute(s).
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 35&start=0

The conclusion is, as far as I can understand it and IANAL, you cannot carry on such a volunteer team unless commissioned.

Abraham wrote:You state your case articulately.

I would politely ask him for his supervisor's name, contact him and state your case to him.

Your concerns are valid and inappropriate for the officer to "out" CHLers.

I concur. I also believe a loaded weapon is much more safe in a holster that being handled in a room full of people.

Avoid interaction with law enforcement if at all possible.

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YabuUS wrote:So I've decided to attend - not carrying my weapon - and see what happens.

I'd have been real tempted to stock up and be carrying at least 6-10 handguns, just to see the look on their faces if they wanted me to disarm.

I don't envy you at all...tough situation indeed. I would probably attend the meeting, keep quiet when he asks the dreaded question, and smile to myself as I sit armed in the back of the room. But I'm a bit of a rebel, so I'm probably not the right person to give sound advice. Good luck, and don't out yourself!!!!