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They make you pay the fee up front. If you buy the firearm, they take it off the price of the gun. If you get denied, or back out of the transaction, they keep it.

Crossfire wrote:

Mike1951 wrote:

tacticool wrote:If they call it in can you wait until you pass and then change your mind?

I suppose you could. Expect most dealers to charge you $10-$15 for the NICS if the sale doesn't go through, for any reason.

I have seen those signs too, and I refuse to do business with those dealers. They are not charged a fee to call NICS, so what are they charging me for? Their time? That's a pretty hefty fee for 5 minutes. I've never seen a gun show deal I couldn't pass up, and find something else comparable.

Purchasing a gun with a CHL? I'll have to try that next time, I typically use a credit card

Crossfire wrote:They make you pay the fee up front. If you buy the firearm, they take it off the price of the gun. If you get denied, or back out of the transaction, they keep it.

When they asked for the fee, I would explain, for the third or fourth time, that I have a CHL and they're not require to call. Under no circumstances would I give a dealer money for junk fees.

Bachman and AJC Sports don't charge junk fees and they usually have the lowest prices at gun shows anyway.

Crossfire wrote: A CHL holder who is called into the NICS system can still get a "delay" response for many reasons - usually because they have the same name as someone else on the "deny" list. Which may be why they got a CHL in the first place, so they could avoid this. If your name is John Smith, you have a much better chance of getting a delay than if your name is less common.

I have one of those very common names. About 10 years ago I started getting asked funny questions when I would renew my DL - like, have you ever had a dl in PA or NJ. Always answered no and that was the end of it. Never had a problem buying a gun either. Then when I moved to TX and went to get my TX DL the teller asked the same questions. I asked what the deal was. Turns out there is a bg in NJ who has the same first name, middle initial, last name, and get this WAS BORN THE SAME DAY I WAS BORN. SS#'s are different so it is not identity theft.

Applied for CHL just after the elections and bought several guns while CHL was processing. Found a neat little gun I wanted - filled out the paperwork and the guys calls it in and get denied. So I get a number and info from the FFL (who treated me like dirt after the denial) and get on the phone with the FBI. Asked why I was denied - can't tell you that sir. Asked if it was because of the clown in NJ. Yes sir it was. But sir I provided my SS# - Doesn't matter sir we are a name based system only. Agent said he could tell that I was not the same person and I just got a crappy agent. Sure enough I walked down a few tables found a better deal and passed the NICS. Go figure.

The agent did suggest I fill out some paperwork and get a pin number to prevent future problems. Knew I was getting the CHL and would not have the issue in the future so I didn't worry about it.

BTW, my record is perfectly clean - never been arrested never been to court. Haven't even gotten a speeding ticket in the last 25 years.

DynaBlue allowed me to buy our latest pistol this past week, so I got to use my brand-new CHL.
She normally likes to buy the guns herself.

It really did cut down on the time (we ran into the store about 10 minutes before closing, already had the pistol on layaway), maybe by half! What took all the time was filling out the danged form.

OldSchool wrote: It really did cut down on the time (we ran into the store about 10 minutes before closing, already had the pistol on layaway), maybe by half! What took all the time was filling out the danged form.

Depends on the store. Some stores ignore the CHL and still make the phone call (I think Sportsman's warehouse and Academy). I usually give them my DL and CHL w/ the form and say "here, this should save you some time". At gun shows and gun stores, they've never call in w/ the CHL. By far, the fastest transactions happens at the larger sellers at gun shows, it's almost assembly line like purcahsing process.

j1132s wrote:

OldSchool wrote: It really did cut down on the time (we ran into the store about 10 minutes before closing, already had the pistol on layaway), maybe by half! What took all the time was filling out the danged form.

At gun shows and gun stores, they've never call in w/ the CHL. By far, the fastest transactions happens at the larger sellers at gun shows, it's almost assembly line like purcahsing process.

Almost like?? Go to Bachmans booth, the boxes are on the floor in a row with your ID on top being funneled to the sales people. It is an assembly line. Took over 2 hours to get a seat at HGCA in January.

rm9792 wrote:

j1132s wrote:

OldSchool wrote: It really did cut down on the time (we ran into the store about 10 minutes before closing, already had the pistol on layaway), maybe by half! What took all the time was filling out the danged form.

At gun shows and gun stores, they've never call in w/ the CHL. By far, the fastest transactions happens at the larger sellers at gun shows, it's almost assembly line like purcahsing process.

Almost like?? Go to Bachmans booth, the boxes are on the floor in a row with your ID on top being funneled to the sales people. It is an assembly line. Took over 2 hours to get a seat at HGCA in January.

I found the guys working at Bachmans rude and arrogant to the point of being insulting. I would go without guns before I would ever buy from those people.

Yeah,a buddy waited for 2 hours (after being told 30 minutes 3 times) then got his id and we left.

j1132s wrote:Depends on the store.

Some strange store rules and interpretations out there for sure.

I handed a salesman at Cabelas *BOTH* my TXDL & CHL and he became quite annoyed and huffed that once I handed him my TXDL (even with my CHL) that he was required to do the phone-in check.

I don't recall if he stated that it was store policy or "law", but he was annoyingly vocal (and loud) that I should have known only to hand my CHL - and not also my DL.

Overall his obnoxiousness was a small price to pay for finding a then hard-to-find pistol, and I got a little chuckle when he walked my pistol 10 feet down the counter to the register and the first thing they asked for there was to see my DL.

At Academy a few months ago I did hand only my CHL, and they asked for my TXDL as well. I don't remember them calling, but it certainly wouldn't have stopped me from purchasing if they had.

hillcountry wrote:

j1132s wrote:Depends on the store.

Some strange store rules and interpretations out there for sure.

I handed a salesman at Cabelas *BOTH* my TXDL & CHL and he became quite annoyed and huffed that once I handed him my TXDL (even with my CHL) that he was required to do the phone-in check.

I don't recall if he stated that it was store policy or "law", but he was annoyingly vocal (and loud) that I should have known only to hand my CHL - and not also my DL.

Overall his obnoxiousness was a small price to pay for finding a then hard-to-find pistol, and I got a little chuckle when he walked my pistol 10 feet down the counter to the register and the first thing they asked for there was to see my DL.

At Academy a few months ago I did hand only my CHL, and they asked for my TXDL as well. I don't remember them calling, but it certainly wouldn't have stopped me from purchasing if they had.

Why get huffy about handing over ID, Darn Gun Store 'tude. Some people need a smacking

I think I would have responded, "Gee, sorry for bothering you. Please return my credentials, and I'll be out of your hair."

sjfcontrol wrote:I think I would have responded, "Gee, sorry for bothering you. Please return my credentials, and I'll be out of your hair."

Indeed. At Academy (and Gander Mountain for smithing services) I have never had a problem with preper service. They have been coutreous and so have I. In contrast I have not had good experiences with McBride's in Austin. the last time I went there was to pick up a specific Ruger target model they had advertised on their website. In person they said such a pistol didn't exist and couldn't be arsed to research it. So, Academy received more of my custom and I'll never darken the McBride's doorstop again.

Outside of a medical situation there is no (nongovernment) good or service I need that can't be taken elsewhere.

frazzled wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:I think I would have responded, "Gee, sorry for bothering you. Please return my credentials, and I'll be out of your hair."

Indeed. At Academy (and Gander Mountain for smithing services) I have never had a problem with preper service. They have been coutreous and so have I. In contrast I have not had good experiences with McBride's in Austin. the last time I went there was to pick up a specific Ruger target model they had advertised on their website. In person they said such a pistol didn't exist and couldn't be arsed to research it. So, Academy received more of my custom and I'll never darken the McBride's doorstop again.

Outside of a medical situation there is no (nongovernment) good or service I need that can't be taken elsewhere.

I'm still waiting for some email repsonses from McBrides. 2 Phone calls and 7 emails about Mcbrides gun smithing zero answers! ANyone know a good smith in Austin?