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Re: Past Indiscretions
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:41 pm
by OldGrumpy
As the OP I would like to get in a couple of "closing comments" before the topic dies.
1. We need to be more diligent in teaching our children that we are resposible for our activities and that there are consequences for the voluntary (even those seeming innocent) acts we commit.
2. We also need to recognize that "victim of circumstances" is sometimes truth. Also, for those of us brought up in strong homes , let's remember that not everyone was so lucky. The people who get caught up in circumstances need to be encouraged along with being held accountable.
Thanks to everyone for great input and I hope everyone has a better feel for the "big picture" of this topic.
Re: Past Indiscretions
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:00 pm
by Tamie
flechero wrote:If you are suggesting that you have never broken a single law, well, I'll just agree to disagree. For the record, I never condoned any misbehaving nor did I say everyone has a criminal record (which was actually part of my original point)... I did say I think that everyone has committed a crime (some minor and some major) in their lifetime so if you never got caught, you can be proud of the fact that you were LUCKY, not good.
Some people break some laws and are willing to accept the consequences if they're caught. In this category I would put chronic speeders who consider the tickets the price they pay to drive at speeds their cars and the freeways were designed for. There is an ego state in the CHL class that describes those people.
Some people break some laws and act like a bratty child if they're caught. They whine that it's unfair they have to pay the fine, or do the time, after knowingly doing the crime. They point fingers. They blame other people for their faults. There is another ego state in the CHL class that describes those people.
That's all I have to say about that.
Re: Past Indiscretions
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:04 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
jmra wrote:PUCKER wrote:jmra wrote:PUCKER wrote:What's that little ole verse from the Very Good Book?
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." (I'm sure a theologian will come along and provide the exact wording, chapter and verse soon)
I cannot cast any stones.
I couldn't hit the side of a barn with a stone. But, I did shoot a tight group with my new XDs yesterday.
On a serious note;
The verse you reference was Jesus talking to a group of men who were about to kill a woman for sleeping with men she wasn't married to. More than likely some of the men about to stone her were the very men she slept with.
The implication here is that these men were about to stone the woman for doing exactly the same thing they were accusing her of.
This doesn't mean that because you lied when you were 12 about breaking a window that you couldn't call out a guy for driving while intoxicated. That would be a total misapplication of the lesson being taught. Otherwise we as parents would not be justified in correcting our children when they commit the same offenses we committed as children. This of course is not what the scripture teaches at all.
I do remember the verse and context, thank you for the refresher though.
You're welcome.
I don't really have an opinion here. I just saw all the
and wanted to get my
in on the chain.
Re: Past Indiscretions
Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:12 pm
by jmra
03Lightningrocks wrote:jmra wrote:PUCKER wrote:jmra wrote:PUCKER wrote:What's that little ole verse from the Very Good Book?
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone..." (I'm sure a theologian will come along and provide the exact wording, chapter and verse soon)
I cannot cast any stones.
I couldn't hit the side of a barn with a stone. But, I did shoot a tight group with my new XDs yesterday.
On a serious note;
The verse you reference was Jesus talking to a group of men who were about to kill a woman for sleeping with men she wasn't married to. More than likely some of the men about to stone her were the very men she slept with.
The implication here is that these men were about to stone the woman for doing exactly the same thing they were accusing her of.
This doesn't mean that because you lied when you were 12 about breaking a window that you couldn't call out a guy for driving while intoxicated. That would be a total misapplication of the lesson being taught. Otherwise we as parents would not be justified in correcting our children when they commit the same offenses we committed as children. This of course is not what the scripture teaches at all.
I do remember the verse and context, thank you for the refresher though.
You're welcome.
I don't really have an opinion here. I just saw all the
and wanted to get my
in on the chain.
