Woman kills man at gas station. Rifle vs knife.

[cheezit]

if you only feel a warning shot is neccary then it speaks volumes. this is one of those times when one should know to keep their mouth shut.
so we have leaving the seen of a crime to boot the negligent homicide or manslaughter charge.

[pancho]

I wonder if the Harris County grand jury will put more weight on her confession or throwing Quanell X a bone.

[drjoker]

Her "warning shot" is FELONY "Deadly Conduct" in Texas. This caused the man to defend himself with a knife which caused her to shoot him several more times, killing him.

She may or may not be guilty of capital murder, but she is certainly guilty of felony negligent discharge aka "Deadly Conduct".

Why is it that every liberal I've ever spoken with said, "Why did Zimmerman shoot to kill? Couldn't he have shot Trayvon's leg or fire a warning shot?" How come every liberal I've ever spoken to seems to think that warning shots are legal?

A DEADLY weapon should only be used if you FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE. If you fire a warning shot then you're not fearing for your life because if you life was in danger, you'd be shooting to stop the threat. A leg shot is even worse. Leg shots don't stop violent attackers bent on killing you, but it also doesn't decrease the probability of killing the person shot because exsanguination from a gunshot wound to the leg only takes 2 minutes to kill you. An ambulance takes 5 minutes to get to you. In other words, the person shot in the leg could have 2 minutes to kill you before he/she bleeds to death.

Looks like she is going to jail.

[EEllis]

Her "warning shot" is FELONY "Deadly Conduct" in Texas. This caused the man to defend himself with a knife which caused her to shoot him several more times, killing him.

She may or may not be guilty of capital murder, but she is certainly guilty of felony negligent discharge aka "Deadly Conduct".

Why is it that every liberal I've ever spoken with said, "Why did Zimmerman shoot to kill? Couldn't he have shot Trayvon's leg or fire a warning shot?" How come every liberal I've ever spoken to seems to think that warning shots are legal?

A DEADLY weapon should only be used if you FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE. If you fire a warning shot then you're not fearing for your life because if you life was in danger, you'd be shooting to stop the threat. A leg shot is even worse. Leg shots don't stop violent attackers bent on killing you, but it also doesn't decrease the probability of killing the person shot because exsanguination from a gunshot wound to the leg only takes 2 minutes to kill you. An ambulance takes 5 minutes to get to you. In other words, the person shot in the leg could have 2 minutes to kill you before he/she bleeds to death.

Looks like she is going to jail.

If you can argue that you are allowed to use deadly force then you can hardly argue that a warning shot is illegal in the same circumstance. So her stance will be that her conduct was absolutely legal that she could of legally shot the man but instead fired a warning shot. It is just your interpretation of the law and belief that if one were in true fear she would never fire a warning shot but that isn't a matter of law but rather a matter of fact for a court to decide. You are arguing tactics and the merits of certain actions but people being stupid doesn't automatically equate to unlawful.

[Tic Tac]

If you fire a warning shot that shows you didn't think deadly force was immediately necessary to stop the threat.

[EEllis]

If you fire a warning shot that shows you didn't think deadly force was immediately necessary to stop the threat.

That is an argument not the law.

[JALLEN]

McDonald said she fired at the ground, hoping to scare the man off.

"She never intended to shoot directly at him," Quanell said. "She didn't know the bullet actually ricocheted and hit him."

That really sounds like a manslaughter confession. I wonder what the grand jury will say.

The Grand Jury won't hear what this Quanell guy says, or thinks, nor should it care. That is not evidence of anything, neither are statements by other non-witness individuals, anymore than the GJ should read this thread before deciding.

A confession is a statement by the accused, which this is not.

[cb1000rider]

Why is it that every liberal I've ever spoken with said, "Why did Zimmerman shoot to kill? Couldn't he have shot Trayvon's leg or fire a warning shot?" How come every liberal I've ever spoken to seems to think that warning shots are legal?

I assume this is a rhetorical question. However in case it isn't:
1) It's because they don't carry again and aren't educated on the law. They're asking "what if" not "which is more legal".
2) Because they think that firing a warning shot may reduce the threat level. There are certainly documented cases of police officers firing at someone, missing, and that person suddenly becoming compliant.

What if I asked:
Would you rather fire a warning shot and go to jail or kill someone and get avoid a conviction? Personally, I hope I never have to make that call.

[JALLEN]

Why is it that every liberal I've ever spoken with said, "Why did Zimmerman shoot to kill? Couldn't he have shot Trayvon's leg or fire a warning shot?" How come every liberal I've ever spoken to seems to think that warning shots are legal?

I assume this is a rhetorical question. However in case it isn't:
1) It's because they don't carry again and aren't educated on the law. They're asking "what if" not "which is more legal".
2) Because they think that firing a warning shot may reduce the threat level. There are certainly documented cases of police officers firing at someone, missing, and that person suddenly becoming compliant.

What if I asked:
Would you rather fire a warning shot and go to jail or kill someone and get avoid a conviction? Personally, I hope I never have to make that call.

What's the difference between a warning shot and one that merely misses? Why should it be a crime? How can it be a crime? Miss and go to jail?

Maybe IDPA is a better idea than we thought!

[bizarrenormality]

A confession is a statement by the accused, which this is not.

I'll use a bigger font if that helps.
McDonald said she fired at the ground, hoping to scare the man off.

[EEllis]

A confession is a statement by the accused, which this is not.

I'll use a bigger font if that helps.
McDonald said she fired at the ground, hoping to scare the man off.

reported by our glorious press. Who did she say it to? The reporter? Or did Q paraphrase and the reporter wrote it like the statement was directly to them. Of course maybe it was what what someone told them she told the cops. I've seen more than a one time where what a person reportedly says might not be wrong but bears little resemblance to the intent and meaning. Without context.........

[bizarrenormality]

So give us the quote in context.

[JALLEN]

A confession is a statement by the accused, which this is not.

I'll use a bigger font if that helps.
McDonald said she fired at the ground, hoping to scare the man off.

Ahh, the indefinite reference trap!

"This" refers to the statement by this fellow Quannell. I have no idea who McDonald is, or whether Quannell was reporting what McDonald said or what.

Who is Quannell, as long as we are exploring the dramatis personae here?

[apostate]

Who is Quannell, as long as we are exploring the dramatis personae here?

"A former drug dealer and street thug whom friends still describe as "very nice with his fists," Quanell [...] changed his birth name, Quanell Ralph Evans, to Quanell X for religious reasons"

[drjoker]

A DEADLY weapon should only be used if you FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE. If you fire a warning shot then you're not fearing for your life because if you life was in danger, you'd be shooting to stop the threat.

If you can argue that you are allowed to use deadly force then you can hardly argue that a warning shot is illegal in the same circumstance.

Well, you don't have to take my word for it, but I invite you to look at the result of this warning shot:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-574 ... ing-shots/