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Grog wrote:

jmra wrote:

Grog wrote:GZ just had bad luck to get pulled, unless they had a call and he was really flying but just about every does 10mph+ between 6am-10pm.

If I am allowed to make an assumption, I think there would be a logical explanation for GZ getting pulled over.

Assumption: GZ was driving a car with FL plates and not a local rental car.

If my assumption is correct then more than likely GZ was profiled. Don't know how often this happens in Texas, but during my years in La, it was common knowledge that if you were Hispanic and you were driving a car with FL plates you were going to get pulled over. How you reacted to the officer would determine how much of the cars interior ended up on the side of the road.

Forney is used to seeing out of state tags, not sure how much I'd go with that.


As stated, I drive that stretch of road eight times a week and I always see out of state tags on 80. It's the main connector between Dallas and I-20 to/from points east.


In just the last month I've seen....

NC (my real home)
SC
FL
KS
Kali (x3)
NY
LA (tons, several times a week)

Probably more that I just didn't notice.



Does anyone know what time of day this happened?

The only out of state tags that would get hit hard in La was FL plates. Has to do with the transport of drugs along the east to west corridors.

A local Forney newspaper reporter caught wind of the stop and submitted the request. The officer probably texted a coworker buddy or the dispatcher and likely took a pic of the computer screen or the DL.

I doubt this officer called the media. It probably got kicked around in the locker room a bit, he was razzed about it (because they'll razz anybody about anything), somebody else casually mentioned it to their brother / dad / girlfriend / cousin. It spreads in the LEO community when something interesting happens. Heck, the dispatcher probably texted her circle of friends as well.

No big deal. No misconduct.

I was on a ride along once with a relative and we got to go to Quincy Carter's house to. . . um. . . visit. I told everybody I met for a week. Mainly because 1) his real name was Lavonya Quintelle Carter, 2) it was a few weeks before he ended up in jail and Randy Galoway bailed him out, and 3) and because it was funny when my relative was asking him for his current place of employment and he said, "None." Then my relative said, "I thought you were with the Jets now?" at which point Q-Car looked down at the ground sheepishly and said, "No, they cut me."

See? I'm still telling the story.

Embalmo wrote:I love their ignorance as the reporter seems to believe it somehow legally matters a lot that Zimmerman was going no particular place.

Like going nowhere is a crime.....

I am betting that he was actually looking at properties for sale in Texas, and doesn't want it known that he's considering moving down here. Anything to get out of Florida to "higher ground."

BTW, EEllis, I don't think the LEO who stopped him committed any great crime in texting the stop to his buddies, but I do think it is pretty cheesy. It shows a kind of disregard for the privacy of others. In the healthcare industry, people get fired and rightly so for doing this kind of stuff. His having been stopped and ticketed may legally be public information, but in fact, it's nobody else's business. And by having it gotten from word of mouth into the media, it's one more burden of stone heaped upon Zimmerman's controversial back. It's a problem endemic to our culture these days.....we have no more respect for other people's business anymore. We love gossip, innuendo, and public scandal, because we are a culture without shame. And unlike the truly shameless who deserve the scorn heaped on them by the public and driven into a froth by the media, all Zimmerman did was use deadly force to legitimately defend himself from use of deadly force. For that, he's going to be hounded for the rest of his life, thanks in no small part to the media.

So in the big picture, did the LEO's lack of discretion further fan the flames of undeserved and racist outrage directed against INNOCENT Zimmerman now that he is truly proven not-guilty, or did it help to calm things down? I think that question answers itself. When the media hyperventilates that he was legally in possession of a legal gun in a legal car as if he had committed a crime, and makes a big deal about the fact that he wasn't particularly headed anywhere......as if that is a big crime.....A) that is the direct result of the cop's indiscretion, and B) the stop really isn't news, except that it's George Zimmerman. How stupid is that?

If I were in Zimmerman's shoes, I'd be not a little irritated at the cop in question, and and I'd be pretty bitter toward law enforcement in general, if this is the kind of unfair treatment I could look forward to in the future from the very people of whom I would expect better.

The Annoyed Man wrote: When the media hyperventilates that he was legally in possession of a legal gun in a legal car as if he had committed a crime...

What bothered me was that even the local "news readers" were saying that the gun was legal since he'd had his carry permit reinstated. I can excuse the error from the New York Networks, since they aren't allowed to know Texas laws. But the locals should know better.

baldeagle wrote:Next up, George, a white Hispanic who shot and killed Trayvon Martin in Florida and was found not guilty triggering protests all over the country, seen entering a bathroom at Chilis......

But, but, but.....he had "GUN" according to the sub heading of the article. These "reports" are obviously intended to keep passions high and alarm the ignorant.

jmra wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

jmra wrote:

Grog wrote:GZ just had bad luck to get pulled, unless they had a call and he was really flying but just about every does 10mph+ between 6am-10pm.

If I am allowed to make an assumption, I think there would be a logical explanation for GZ getting pulled over.
Assumption: GZ was driving a car with FL plates and not a local rental car.
If my assumption is correct then more than likely GZ was profiled. Don't know how often this happens in Texas, but during my years in La, it was common knowledge that if you were Hispanic and you were driving a car with FL plates you were going to get pulled over. How you reacted to the officer would determine how much of the cars interior ended up on the side of the road.

The cop reported him as a white male, so everybody should ditch the Hispanic thing.

He was probably buying into the media portrayal of Z as being white.

The general consensus among the academics now is that "Hispanic" is an ethnicity while "Caucasian" is a race. In the Dominican republic, there are plenty of black Hispanics.

In the Middle East, there are racial Indo-Europeans who are ethnically Persians (Iran) or Arabs (Saudi Arabia, UAE, and the rest of the peninsula).

Based on these distinctions, it is appropriate to describe GZ racially as "white".

The Annoyed Man wrote: BTW, EEllis, I don't think the LEO who stopped him committed any great crime in texting the stop to his buddies, but I do think it is pretty cheesy. It shows a kind of disregard for the privacy of others. In the healthcare industry, people get fired and rightly so for doing this kind of stuff. His having been stopped and ticketed may legally be public information, but in fact, it's nobody else's business. And by having it gotten from word of mouth into the media, it's one more burden of stone heaped upon Zimmerman's controversial back. It's a problem endemic to our culture these days.....we have no more respect for other people's business anymore. We love gossip, innuendo, and public scandal, because we are a culture without shame. And unlike the truly shameless who deserve the scorn heaped on them by the public and driven into a froth by the media, all Zimmerman did was use deadly force to legitimately defend himself from use of deadly force. For that, he's going to be hounded for the rest of his life, thanks in no small part to the media.

So in the big picture, did the LEO's lack of discretion further fan the flames of undeserved and racist outrage directed against INNOCENT Zimmerman now that he is truly proven not-guilty, or did it help to calm things down? I think that question answers itself. When the media hyperventilates that he was legally in possession of a legal gun in a legal car as if he had committed a crime, and makes a big deal about the fact that he wasn't particularly headed anywhere......as if that is a big crime.....A) that is the direct result of the cop's indiscretion, and B) the stop really isn't news, except that it's George Zimmerman. How stupid is that?

If I were in Zimmerman's shoes, I'd be not a little irritated at the cop in question, and and I'd be pretty bitter toward law enforcement in general, if this is the kind of unfair treatment I could look forward to in the future from the very people of whom I would expect better.

All this based on some noises heard over a bad video? Whatever, the bashing over unknown facts that people are just positive of is getting a bit much for me.

jmra wrote:The only out of state tags that would get hit hard in La was FL plates. Has to do with the transport of drugs along the east to west corridors.

If I was George I would change those plates quick. Registered to a LLC or corp might be a good idea.

The Dude wrote:

jmra wrote:The only out of state tags that would get hit hard in La was FL plates. Has to do with the transport of drugs along the east to west corridors.

If I was George I would change those plates quick. Registered to a LLC or corp might be a good idea.

Hmmmm, "Stand Your Ground-And-Pound, LLC"

George I have a house for sale!! Gimme a shout!!

If any of you saw GZ during your regular work duties, I'm sure you'd text a buddy or two.

Is this really the best thing that we can find to argue about on the Internet?

This forum's tone and funmeter has really taken a nosedive recently.

gigag04 wrote:If any of you saw GZ during your regular work duties, I'm sure you'd text a buddy or two.

Is this really the best thing that we can find to argue about on the Internet?

This forum's tone and funmeter has really taken a nosedive recently.

If I saw GZ during my regular work duties, I doubt that anybody could request a copy of the video of my encounter.

EEllis wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote: BTW, EEllis, I don't think the LEO who stopped him committed any great crime in texting the stop to his buddies, but I do think it is pretty cheesy. It shows a kind of disregard for the privacy of others. In the healthcare industry, people get fired and rightly so for doing this kind of stuff. His having been stopped and ticketed may legally be public information, but in fact, it's nobody else's business. And by having it gotten from word of mouth into the media, it's one more burden of stone heaped upon Zimmerman's controversial back. It's a problem endemic to our culture these days.....we have no more respect for other people's business anymore. We love gossip, innuendo, and public scandal, because we are a culture without shame. And unlike the truly shameless who deserve the scorn heaped on them by the public and driven into a froth by the media, all Zimmerman did was use deadly force to legitimately defend himself from use of deadly force. For that, he's going to be hounded for the rest of his life, thanks in no small part to the media.

So in the big picture, did the LEO's lack of discretion further fan the flames of undeserved and racist outrage directed against INNOCENT Zimmerman now that he is truly proven not-guilty, or did it help to calm things down? I think that question answers itself. When the media hyperventilates that he was legally in possession of a legal gun in a legal car as if he had committed a crime, and makes a big deal about the fact that he wasn't particularly headed anywhere......as if that is a big crime.....A) that is the direct result of the cop's indiscretion, and B) the stop really isn't news, except that it's George Zimmerman. How stupid is that?

If I were in Zimmerman's shoes, I'd be not a little irritated at the cop in question, and and I'd be pretty bitter toward law enforcement in general, if this is the kind of unfair treatment I could look forward to in the future from the very people of whom I would expect better.

All this based on some noises heard over a bad video? Whatever, the bashing over unknown facts that people are just positive of is getting a bit much for me.

You must not have an smartphone with an onboard camera. That was clearly a cellphone camera shutter, and clearly text typing noises. There was no mistaking those noises.

ScooterSissy wrote:Gee, same day I got stopped by a Southlake policeman for speeding, had a gun on my hip, got off with a warning; and it didn't make the news at all.
Seriously, Southlake cop let me off with a warning, now that's news!!

That's almost a miracle!!

The Annoyed Man wrote:

EEllis wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote: BTW, EEllis, I don't think the LEO who stopped him committed any great crime in texting the stop to his buddies, but I do think it is pretty cheesy. It shows a kind of disregard for the privacy of others. In the healthcare industry, people get fired and rightly so for doing this kind of stuff. His having been stopped and ticketed may legally be public information, but in fact, it's nobody else's business. And by having it gotten from word of mouth into the media, it's one more burden of stone heaped upon Zimmerman's controversial back. It's a problem endemic to our culture these days.....we have no more respect for other people's business anymore. We love gossip, innuendo, and public scandal, because we are a culture without shame. And unlike the truly shameless who deserve the scorn heaped on them by the public and driven into a froth by the media, all Zimmerman did was use deadly force to legitimately defend himself from use of deadly force. For that, he's going to be hounded for the rest of his life, thanks in no small part to the media.

So in the big picture, did the LEO's lack of discretion further fan the flames of undeserved and racist outrage directed against INNOCENT Zimmerman now that he is truly proven not-guilty, or did it help to calm things down? I think that question answers itself. When the media hyperventilates that he was legally in possession of a legal gun in a legal car as if he had committed a crime, and makes a big deal about the fact that he wasn't particularly headed anywhere......as if that is a big crime.....A) that is the direct result of the cop's indiscretion, and B) the stop really isn't news, except that it's George Zimmerman. How stupid is that?

If I were in Zimmerman's shoes, I'd be not a little irritated at the cop in question, and and I'd be pretty bitter toward law enforcement in general, if this is the kind of unfair treatment I could look forward to in the future from the very people of whom I would expect better.

All this based on some noises heard over a bad video? Whatever, the bashing over unknown facts that people are just positive of is getting a bit much for me.

You must not have an smartphone with an onboard camera. That was clearly a cellphone camera shutter, and clearly text typing noises. There was no mistaking those noises.

Now, if you were employed by the NSA, you'd be able to analyze the timing and sounds of the clicks in order to reconstruct the actual message that was sent. THEN I'd be impressed...