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Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:21 pm
by bdickens
MaxBerlin wrote:Friday October 4th is National "Bring your Gun to Starbucks" Day. On this day millions of gun owners will open and concealed carry their weapon of choice to a local Starbucks to order either a DoubleShot or a just a glass of water. Feel free to leave a round of ammo in the tip jar.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits"
-Albert Einstein
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:23 pm
by wheelgun1958
I can think of quite a number of "rights" groups that shove their "rights" in my face. And very few have any constitutional basis.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:37 pm
by Abraham
Excellent point.
Pro-gun groups need to consider their dreadful PR.
Oh, too sophisticated?
The other side doesn't think so...
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:45 pm
by BigBangSmallBucks
fishman wrote:How about letting Starbucks bring coffee to the gun range.
Sounds like a good idea to me. Now as far as your sig goes that's another story
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:47 pm
by BigBangSmallBucks
jmra wrote:I smell a troll.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:55 pm
by cb1000rider
wheelgun1958 wrote:I can think of quite a number of "rights" groups that shove their "rights" in my face. And very few have any constitutional basis.
That sure sounds like "it's OK because they do it".
What "they" do should have no bearing on what we do.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:07 pm
by Dave2
MaxBerlin wrote:Friday October 4th is National "Bring your Gun to Starbucks" Day. On this day millions of gun owners will open and concealed carry their weapon of choice to a local Starbucks to order either a DoubleShot or a just a glass of water. Feel free to leave a round of ammo in the tip jar.
MaxBerlin wrote:What they don't know won't hurt them. And I'm sure you can afford a round of ammo big spender.
Seriously? I was willing to consider the possibility of sarcasm on your part until your second post, but now...
Their CEO has bent over backwards to
not ban guns, and your response is to taunt him over it? Exactly how inconsiderate can you be? They've made it abundantly clear that they don't want to be part of the gun debate. If you force them to pick a side, well, there aren't any signs they can put up requiring customers to carry a gun, so which group do you think they'll ban?
All they want to do is sell coffee without stirring up political hard feelings. Let them do that, please, before you ruin it for everyone.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:09 pm
by Dave2
The Annoyed Man wrote:MaxBerlin wrote:What they don't know won't hurt them. And I'm sure you can afford a round of ammo big spender.
It is PRECISELY this attitude which caused the Starbucks CEO to write that letter. It is PRECISELY this attitude which will result in 30.06 signs at all Texas Starbucks. THEN will you acknowledge how wrong you are.........or will your attitude keep you in denial?
The simple fact that he posted his idea confirms he thinks that's just a river in Egypt.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:53 pm
by nightmare
cb1000rider wrote:wheelgun1958 wrote:I can think of quite a number of "rights" groups that shove their "rights" in my face. And very few have any constitutional basis.
That sure sounds like "it's OK because they do it".
What "they" do should have no bearing on what we do.
They get results. We get campus carry still being illegal in Texas.
Congratulations.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:30 pm
by cb1000rider
nightmare wrote:
They get results. We get campus carry still being illegal in Texas.
Congratulations.
So you're saying that in-your-face strategies are effective? It seems we have a general disagreement as a group on effective strategies for bringing about pro-2nd amendment changes.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:34 pm
by goose
nightmare wrote:cb1000rider wrote:wheelgun1958 wrote:I can think of quite a number of "rights" groups that shove their "rights" in my face. And very few have any constitutional basis.
That sure sounds like "it's OK because they do it".
What "they" do should have no bearing on what we do.
They get results. We get campus carry still being illegal in Texas.
Congratulations.
We get results all the time. We didn't get campus carry. It is unfortunate but that in no way defines the complete 2A war. It is one battle still being faught. We got a huge voctory in Illinois. We got pro-gun laws passed in Ohio, Virginia. The NRA-ILA has tons of success stories. And none of those involved OC campouts at a Starbucks.
The eye roll in condescending and helpful to the discussion, right?
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:52 pm
by E.Marquez
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Pretty sure we are talking to our selves here folks.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:05 pm
by Beiruty
Lock it up, please.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:35 pm
by urnoodle
I disagree with the idea of collectively going anywhere to prove a point where an invitation to do so hasn't been provided by the business owner. That doesn't mean I remain silent. I communicate with my local, state and federal legislators and I educate my family and friends. Prior to the Starbucks announcement, if I were open carrying and in need of a cup of coffee then stopping by Starbucks would have been a minor event. Showing up with several people carrying firearms and a camera is grandstanding. I would expect it to induce a negative response as that was it's purpose.
That being said I disagree with Mr. Schultz and I will not do business with Starbucks again. His initial letter is not what drove my decision. It was his response to Poppy about why there is no ban. He said his people would feel uncomfortable when confronting a customer holding a firearm. IMHO, his answer implies that the open carry person that is asked to leave, is somehow less rational or is more prone to creating a disturbance than a non carrying customer.
One has to make up one's own mind as to whether he or she still wants to spend money at Starbucks. I just ask that the firearm community stop demonstrations without invitation. I see more damage than good with this approach.
Re: National Bring Your Gun to Starbucks Day Friday October
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:39 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
This is not OpenCarry.org nor will it ever be.
Chas.