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Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:23 am
by uthornsfan
How about yelling
CONTACT FRONT or whatever direction it is coming from.
I think you might get assistance from people other than CHLrs IE Leos or current / prior service members
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:36 am
by rbwhatever1
Crazy funny stuff here. I think the sound of a cartridge exploding would get everyone's attention real quick.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:26 am
by MadMonkey
jmra wrote:Sorry, but I'm not going to use the excuse of assuming that a woman tied up on the side of the road may be involved in something consensual in order to avoid my obligation as a human being to at least investigate wether or not she in fact needs assistance.
IMHO this whole thread is based on someone's complete misunderstanding of what an instructor was suggesting. There is little doubt in my mind that the instructor was telling his students that if they did in fact have to pull their weapon around other people that they should clearly state that they have a CHL not as a cry for assistance from other CHLs, but in order to avoid being shot by another CHL who might otherwise mistake them for the BG.
An "excuse" to not act? No. It's minimizing risk and not playing hero when you or your loved ones are not involved and when you have no clue what is actually going on. There are just too many variables in play, and I trust pretty much nobody outside of my family to tell me the truth. Sure, ask if either of them needs help if you want, but even then I'm not making a judgment call.
If there's an obvious threat to someone's life, then I'd be more inclined to take action, but even in that situation it's dangerous since you don't know the circumstances leading up to that point.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:58 am
by jmra
MadMonkey wrote:jmra wrote:Sorry, but I'm not going to use the excuse of assuming that a woman tied up on the side of the road may be involved in something consensual in order to avoid my obligation as a human being to at least investigate wether or not she in fact needs assistance.
IMHO this whole thread is based on someone's complete misunderstanding of what an instructor was suggesting. There is little doubt in my mind that the instructor was telling his students that if they did in fact have to pull their weapon around other people that they should clearly state that they have a CHL not as a cry for assistance from other CHLs, but in order to avoid being shot by another CHL who might otherwise mistake them for the BG.
An "excuse" to not act? No. It's minimizing risk and not playing hero when you or your loved ones are not involved and when you have no clue what is actually going on. There are just too many variables in play, and I trust pretty much nobody outside of my family to tell me the truth. Sure, ask if either of them needs help if you want, but even then I'm not making a judgment call.
If there's an obvious threat to someone's life, then I'd be more inclined to take action, but even in that situation it's dangerous since you don't know the circumstances leading up to that point.
So, you want to wait until he slits her throat?
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
BTW, this has nothing to do with having a CHL, being armed or unarmed. It is about the responsibility that individuals have for each other in a civilized community. Just because we pay someone to watch out for us doesn't mean we stop watching out for each other. I am no hero but I have prior to having a CHL stepped into situations in order to assist someone in distress. You may be able to turn a blind eye, but I have two young boys I am teaching how to become strong young men of character. I can not afford to look the other way.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:13 pm
by MadMonkey
jmra wrote:So, you want to wait until he slits her throat?
"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
BTW, this has nothing to do with having a CHL, being armed or unarmed. It is about the responsibility that individuals have for each other in a civilized community. Just because we pay someone to watch out for us doesn't mean we stop watching out for each other. I am no hero but I have prior to having a CHL stepped into situations in order to assist someone in distress. You may be able to turn a blind eye, but I have two young boys I am teaching how to become strong young men of character. I can not afford to look the other way.
*whoooooosh*
I'm out.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:45 pm
by SlowDave
Oldgringo wrote:Since many CHL's carry several loaded magazines; maybe three shots {pause} followed by one shot {pause} then three more shots(SOS) into the air would send a signal of distress and call for backup?
You gotta put some kind of smiley or something before someone takes you seriously there Oldgringo!
I think I'd rather just worry about me and not coordinating with more strangers than necessary.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:34 pm
by Oldgringo
SlowDave wrote:Oldgringo wrote:Since many CHL's carry several loaded magazines; maybe three shots {pause} followed by one shot {pause} then three more shots(SOS) into the air would send a signal of distress and call for backup?
You gotta put some kind of smiley or something before someone takes you seriously there Oldgringo!
I think I'd rather just worry about me and not coordinating with more strangers than necessary.
Yes, I was being sarcastical.

There ain't no flies on you, SlowDave.

Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:43 pm
by gringo pistolero
jmra wrote:"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
BTW, this has nothing to do with having a CHL, being armed or unarmed. It is about the responsibility that individuals have for each other in a civilized community.
Like MoJo said, if you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:10 pm
by mojo84
I believe being a good Samaritan is part of being a Good American citizen. It doesn't take a CHL or police academy attendance to be a Good Samaritan.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:55 pm
by jbarn
gringo pistolero wrote:jmra wrote:"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
BTW, this has nothing to do with having a CHL, being armed or unarmed. It is about the responsibility that individuals have for each other in a civilized community.
Like MoJo said, if you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.
One need not be cop to intervene in the assault or worse of another.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:05 pm
by WildBill
jbarn wrote:gringo pistolero wrote:jmra wrote:"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"
BTW, this has nothing to do with having a CHL, being armed or unarmed. It is about the responsibility that individuals have for each other in a civilized community.
Like MoJo said, if you want to be a cop, go to The Police Academy, and be a cop.
One need not be cop to intervene in the assault or worse of another.
Nor does one need to have a CHL.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:44 pm
by wakeboard
jimlongley wrote:Keith B wrote:I like
'Run Forest, Run!' better.

There's two 'R's in my name, son.

Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:14 am
by AJSully421
Your backup is on your hip.
Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:58 am
by Pecos
WildBill wrote:Keith B wrote:I like
'Run Forest, Run!' better.

Probably much more effective!
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Re: Universal Cry for help for nearby CHLs
Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:30 am
by jimlongley
I have been checking this thread, mostly for comedy, since I first posted, and just this morning I came up with a couple.
RELOADING!!!
or
I'm out, anybody got any .45ACP?