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Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:29 pm
by patterson
TNacp99 wrote:I own a sig p226, M&P full size VTAC 9 mm, Glock 17 Gen4, Glock 19 Gen4, and Colt New Agent.
I have used both the Sig p226 and the Glock 19 in separate pistol courses (round counts 500-800 each course).
My preferences are as follows:
Grip ergonomics-unmodified out of the box: Sig p226
Bore axis- Glock
Engineering quality and feel: Sig p226
Trigger preference: Glock after modification (GHOST connector, polishing)
Sights out of the box: Sig night sights
Performance during pistol courses: Glock
Comfort during carry conceal: Glock (lighter)
Availability of accessories: Glock
What do I prefer overall? I carry concealed a Glock Gen 4 but I have had to modify it significantly. The reconstructive surgeries on my Glock have included: Grip reduction to better fit my hands, heavy stippling, changing sights to Ameriglo I-dot sights, and Ghost Evo Elite connector and polishing. Once you have made all of these changes, the price matches the Sig but my glock now fits and feels great. You cannot modify the Sig very much except for the sights.
The Glock performed much better in terms of handling and accuracy (after above modifications) during the courses. The accuracy of the Sig was great once the SA kicked in but as others have mentioned, the initial DA to SA transition threw me off too many times. Carrying the glock is much more comfortable because of its lighter weight.
Hope this helps.
maybe I will check out the polymer sig 2022 as a lighter weight option for carry if the ergonomics are the same as the 226 but I have no problems carrying the sig p226 or a 1911
Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:42 pm
by SQLGeek
Maybe you should buy another Sig in a different caliber?
Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:45 pm
by patterson
SQLGeek wrote:Maybe you should buy another Sig in a different caliber?
yeah maybe
Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:46 pm
by gigag04
/thread ?
Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:24 pm
by patterson
gigag04 wrote:/thread ?
huh?
Re: 9mm
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:08 pm
by patterson
patterson wrote:gigag04 wrote:/thread ?
huh?
oh ok enough Sig talk
Re: 9mm
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:39 pm
by LSUTiger
My first choice in handguns is always Glock. Reliable, accurate, affordable, has large market share which means magazines, accessories and parts are less expensive and more widely available than most any other. Parts and magazine interchangeability is always a plus.
Unless you have a specific role that a Glock can't fill, (can't think of any when compared to similiar sized handguns), I go Glock.
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:16 am
by Excaliber
patterson wrote:doesn't the military use the da/sa platform such as the M9 as a secondary weapon
Yes, but that's likely to change with their recently announced quest for a new pistol to replace the M9.
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:06 am
by gigag04
Excaliber wrote:patterson wrote:doesn't the military use the da/sa platform such as the M9 as a secondary weapon
Yes, but that's likely to change with their recently announced quest for a new pistol to replace the M9.
M9 was not chosen on lethality or ease of use as it has one the least user friendly manual
arms of any defensive pistol. If we are to continue the friendly debate of the merits of this platform, the military use of it holds no weight in my mind.
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:28 am
by patterson
Excaliber wrote:patterson wrote:doesn't the military use the da/sa platform such as the M9 as a secondary weapon
Yes, but that's likely to change with their recently announced quest for a new pistol to replace the M9.[
yeah you are probably right because in the last big handgun testing(ICE) I believe DAO pistols won out
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:40 am
by patterson
gigag04 wrote:Excaliber wrote:patterson wrote:doesn't the military use the da/sa platform such as the M9 as a secondary weapon
Yes, but that's likely to change with their recently announced quest for a new pistol to replace the M9.
M9 was not chosen on lethality or ease of use as it has one the least user friendly manual
arms of any defensive pistol. If we are to continue the friendly debate of the merits of this platform, the military use of it holds no weight in my mind.
yeah the use of it in combat shouldn't hold any weight
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:04 am
by patterson
im not an opponent to the striker fired platform and im not a die hard da/sa platform fan or Sig only fan and everything else is junk I like firearms by a lot of makers and have them as well and im still considering a G19 but not for carry that is my choice just as its a choice for many to shoot glocks only but it seems those are the people that rip on people if they like something better than glocks
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:01 am
by gigag04
patterson wrote:im not an opponent to the striker fired platform and im not a die hard da/sa platform fan or Sig only fan and everything else is junk I like firearms by a lot of makers and have them as well and im still considering a G19 but not for carry that is my choice just as its a choice for many to shoot glocks only but it seems those are the people that rip on people if they like something better than glocks
I read this without taking a breath...too exhausted to reply!
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:09 am
by patterson
gigag04 wrote:patterson wrote:im not an opponent to the striker fired platform and im not a die hard da/sa platform fan or Sig only fan and everything else is junk I like firearms by a lot of makers and have them as well and im still considering a G19 but not for carry that is my choice just as its a choice for many to shoot glocks only but it seems those are the people that rip on people if they like something better than glocks
I read this without taking a breath...too exhausted to reply!
the other day you wanted this topic to end but as I saw from your earlier post today you wanted to discuss it more
Re: 9mm
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:10 am
by SQLGeek
patterson wrote:its a choice for many to shoot glocks only but it seems those are the people that rip on people if they like something better than glocks
I don't see anybody ripping on anybody in this thread for choosing to own and carry the firearms that they do.