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Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:05 am
by jmra
mojo84 wrote:
gemini wrote:I have no problem with banning texting while using a motor vehicle.
In fact, if you are involved in a accident and you cause a death or serious
bodily injury, and you were found to be texting at the time of the collision/accident/wreck.
I would like it to be a criminal offense. Not a slap on the wrist.
Of course, I feel the same way about drunk drivers. Involuntary manslaughter is a slap
on the wrist for the drunk driver who kills the innocent.
I've donned my asbestos fire suit, so all you folks that think you're Mr. Ace driver
and texting doesn't affect your attention or driving skills....flame away.
:cool:

p.s. thank you Lord for the rain. Everyone have a nice safe weekend!

What about eating a cheeseburger with fries, putting on makeup, reading the paper, adjusting the radio, etc.?
:iagree:
Enforce existing driving laws and the rest takes care of itself. I've found that the people who complain the most about cell phone use while driving are usually the worst drivers out there.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:25 pm
by gemini
mojo84 wrote:
gemini wrote:I have no problem with banning texting while using a motor vehicle.
In fact, if you are involved in a accident and you cause a death or serious
bodily injury, and you were found to be texting at the time of the collision/accident/wreck.
I would like it to be a criminal offense. Not a slap on the wrist.
Of course, I feel the same way about drunk drivers. Involuntary manslaughter is a slap
on the wrist for the drunk driver who kills the innocent.
I've donned my asbestos fire suit, so all you folks that think you're Mr. Ace driver
and texting doesn't affect your attention or driving skills....flame away.
:cool:

p.s. thank you Lord for the rain. Everyone have a nice safe weekend!

What about eating a cheeseburger with fries, putting on makeup, reading the paper, adjusting the radio, etc.?
I don't eat cheeseburgers or fries while driving. I get more on me than in my mouth. I don't wear makeup, so... I don't
read the paper while driving. But, When traveling, and my wife is riding shotgun we will work a crossword. She reads the
clues and writes....I just talk. Radio? XM or sports talk; set and forget. Besides, I can change radio channel settings without
looking.
My main problem with texting while driving is the inattention it causes. Hands free devices are the
only way to go. I personally have seen 2 rear end collisions caused from head-down texting. Thankfully
there were no physical injuries, only damaged vehicles. I've read of several instances of riders being
killed by texting drivers. Even hands free devices divide your attention. But just short of outlawing device use
while driving they are the next best thing. (that said, I am for LESS laws, LESS nanny state, LESS goobernment).
I lose count how many times a day I see someone impeding traffic because they have a mobile phone stuck to their ear
and are chatting away, while traffic is stacked up behind them and cars are passing on both sides. I think it's
inconsiderate to other drivers, rude and dangerous. Use the hands free to chat while driving. Pull over to answer that
all important text message of "what's up?". Or wait to answer later. Wall Street will still be there. The sky won't be falling.

p.s. seriously, I am SO glad it's raining.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:35 pm
by mojo84
gemini wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
gemini wrote:I have no problem with banning texting while using a motor vehicle.
In fact, if you are involved in a accident and you cause a death or serious
bodily injury, and you were found to be texting at the time of the collision/accident/wreck.
I would like it to be a criminal offense. Not a slap on the wrist.
Of course, I feel the same way about drunk drivers. Involuntary manslaughter is a slap
on the wrist for the drunk driver who kills the innocent.
I've donned my asbestos fire suit, so all you folks that think you're Mr. Ace driver
and texting doesn't affect your attention or driving skills....flame away.
:cool:

p.s. thank you Lord for the rain. Everyone have a nice safe weekend!

What about eating a cheeseburger with fries, putting on makeup, reading the paper, adjusting the radio, etc.?
I don't eat cheeseburgers or fries while driving. I get more on me than in my mouth. I don't wear makeup, so... I don't
read the paper while driving. But, When traveling, and my wife is riding shotgun we will work a crossword. She reads the
clues and writes....I just talk. Radio? XM or sports talk; set and forget. Besides, I can change radio channel settings without
looking.
My main problem with texting while driving is the inattention it causes. Hands free devices are the
only way to go. I personally have seen 2 rear end collisions caused from head-down texting. Thankfully
there were no physical injuries, only damaged vehicles. I've read of several instances of riders being
killed by texting drivers. Even hands free devices divide your attention. But just short of outlawing device use
while driving they are the next best thing. (that said, I am for LESS laws, LESS nanny state, LESS goobernment).
I lose count how many times a day I see someone impeding traffic because they have a mobile phone stuck to their ear
and are chatting away, while traffic is stacked up behind them and cars are passing on both sides. I think it's
inconsiderate to other drivers, rude and dangerous. Use the hands free to chat while driving. Pull over to answer that
all important text message of "what's up?". Or wait to answer later. Wall Street will still be there. The sky won't be falling.

p.s. seriously, I am SO glad it's raining.

You responded as if I asked what you do or don't do. I actually asked if you think the activities I mentioned should also be against the law and criminal as you believe texting and handheld phone use should be.

I believe those activities are just as distracting but I see all of them almost every time I head into San Antonio or Houston.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:09 pm
by gemini
mojo84, yea. I re-read. No personal offense meant either way. Sorry.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:04 pm
by SewTexas
I think they need to ban babies and toddlers in cars, oh, skip that, just ban all kids, way too distracting. IF I were to text while driving I would probably be much safer than I was when my kids were little "Mommmmm, he touched me!"

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:35 pm
by jmra
SewTexas wrote:I think they need to ban babies and toddlers in cars, oh, skip that, just ban all kids, way too distracting. IF I were to text while driving I would probably be much safer than I was when my kids were little "Mommmmm, he touched me!"
"Are we there yet?"

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:40 pm
by jmra
I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of people texting while driving that actually get into an accident is probably pretty close to the percentage of gun owners that have accidents with their guns. Of course it would be difficult to prove as it's almost impossible to determine how many people text and drive.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:18 pm
by Jumping Frog
jmra wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of people texting while driving that actually get into an accident is probably pretty close to the percentage of gun owners that have accidents with their guns. Of course it would be difficult to prove as it's almost impossible to determine how many people text and drive.
I've read the studies that show texting or talking on the telephone while driving causes the same degree of impairment as driving legally drunk.

There is a lot of safety literature in this area.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:46 am
by jmra
Jumping Frog wrote:
jmra wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of people texting while driving that actually get into an accident is probably pretty close to the percentage of gun owners that have accidents with their guns. Of course it would be difficult to prove as it's almost impossible to determine how many people text and drive.
I've read the studies that show texting or talking on the telephone while driving causes the same degree of impairment as driving legally drunk.

There is a lot of safety literature in this area.
almost all of these "studies" begin with an agenda. Give me any topic, tell me the result you want, and I can conduct a study that will draw the desired conclusion.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:06 am
by Vol Texan
jmra wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
jmra wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of people texting while driving that actually get into an accident is probably pretty close to the percentage of gun owners that have accidents with their guns. Of course it would be difficult to prove as it's almost impossible to determine how many people text and drive.
I've read the studies that show texting or talking on the telephone while driving causes the same degree of impairment as driving legally drunk.

There is a lot of safety literature in this area.
almost all of these "studies" begin with an agenda. Give me any topic, tell me the result you want, and I can conduct a study that will draw the desired conclusion.
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Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:42 am
by TxRVer
TVGuy wrote:
Gaidheal wrote:
All the major Texas metropolises, IIRC. I know that certainly both Austin and San Antonio and I thought Houston as well but don't quote me.
Not in Dallas....yet.
Probably the reason I hadn't heard of it, although I noticed the Ellis county town of Maypearl is on the list.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:14 pm
by tomtexan
TxRVer wrote: Probably the reason I hadn't heard of it, although I noticed the Ellis county town of Maypearl is on the list.
That caught my eye too. Maypearl, of all places. :shock:
It's been twenty years or more since my last visit to Maypearl.
It was barely a spot on the map back then.
One of my high school classmates still resides there.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:20 pm
by C-dub
Vol Texan wrote:
jmra wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:
jmra wrote:I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of people texting while driving that actually get into an accident is probably pretty close to the percentage of gun owners that have accidents with their guns. Of course it would be difficult to prove as it's almost impossible to determine how many people text and drive.
I've read the studies that show texting or talking on the telephone while driving causes the same degree of impairment as driving legally drunk.

There is a lot of safety literature in this area.
almost all of these "studies" begin with an agenda. Give me any topic, tell me the result you want, and I can conduct a study that will draw the desired conclusion.
Ding Ding Ding!!! We have a winner! :hurry: :hurry: :hurry: :hurry: :hurry:
Yup. Setup the model the right way and the polar cap will melt by 2014.

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:29 pm
by Munk
I am really beginning to hate San Antonio...

Re: Wife's contact with San Antonio PD.

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:30 pm
by jmra
Munk wrote:I am really beginning to hate San Antonio...
I learned to hate SA 30 years ago during basic training. :mrgreen: