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Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:15 am
by The Wall
Just got a new thumb break holster for my Springfield EMP. The holster I had for it (Galco) the thumb break would hit on the slide safety causing it to disengage. Not likely to be a problem but I just didn't feel comfortable with that. Would still have to make the grip safety and pull the trigger but still not a good thing.
The new one is a DeSantis Mini Slide, and is a much better holster. The thumb break is wide enough and is blocked from moving by the cocked hammer. Just thought I'd mention this potential issue for others to look at when getting a thumb break holster. Make sure it says for cocked and locked in the holster description if you are ordering online.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:40 am
by big454
The Wall wrote:Just got a new thumb break holster for my Springfield EMP. The holster I had for it (Galco) the thumb break would hit on the slide safety causing it to disengage. Not likely to be a problem but I just didn't feel comfortable with that. Would still have to make the grip safety and pull the trigger but still not a good thing.
The new one is a DeSantis Mini Slide, and is a much better holster. The thumb break is wide enough and is blocked from moving by the cocked hammer. Just thought I'd mention this potential issue for others to look at when getting a thumb break holster. Make sure it says for cocked and locked in the holster description if you are ordering online.
Congrats on the new holster! And thank you for the heads up.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:57 pm
by big454
One hundred and ninety two days until open carry is legal. :txflag: :thewave

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:32 pm
by big454
191 more 2 go. :anamatedbanana

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:01 pm
by AlaskanInTexas
I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:45 pm
by Ruark
AlaskanInTexas wrote:I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.
You broke the law. A firearm carried in your car (with or without a CHL) must be concealed. Lucky you weren't pulled over, or you wouldn't be sitting there typing that.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:59 pm
by Beiruty
Ruark wrote:
AlaskanInTexas wrote:I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.
You broke the law. A firearm carried in your car (with or without a CHL) must be concealed. Lucky you weren't pulled over, or you wouldn't be sitting there typing that.
Nope, he can open carry while traveling. It is the law or more specifically, it is an exception to apply the law.
Supportive evidence: Section 46.15 (b)(2).

Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
.....
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
....
(2) is traveling;

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:13 pm
by jmra
Beiruty wrote:
Ruark wrote:
AlaskanInTexas wrote:I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.
You broke the law. A firearm carried in your car (with or without a CHL) must be concealed. Lucky you weren't pulled over, or you wouldn't be sitting there typing that.
Nope, he can open carry while traveling. It is the law or more specifically, it is an exception to apply the law.
Supportive evidence: Section 46.15 (b)(2).

Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
.....
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
....
(2) is traveling;
My concern would be the very likely probability that an officer making a stop would not be aware of that law and once he saw the gun in the open would not likely be in a mood to listen to me explain the law. Think I'll keep mine concealed.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:42 am
by G.A. Heath
jmra wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
Ruark wrote:
AlaskanInTexas wrote:I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.
You broke the law. A firearm carried in your car (with or without a CHL) must be concealed. Lucky you weren't pulled over, or you wouldn't be sitting there typing that.
Nope, he can open carry while traveling. It is the law or more specifically, it is an exception to apply the law.
Supportive evidence: Section 46.15 (b)(2).

Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
.....
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
....
(2) is traveling;
My concern would be the very likely probability that an officer making a stop would not be aware of that law and once he saw the gun in the open would not likely be in a mood to listen to me explain the law. Think I'll keep mine concealed.
Additionally there is the issue that there is little to no modern case law, if any, on the definition of travelling. The judge/jury may decide that any distance that is great enough that one might prefer to use transportation is travelling OR that one must be crossing the state line, or some obscure/arcane definition where someone has no protection under the travelling exemption.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:33 am
by nightmare69
I open carried today at Walmart...just sayin.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:18 am
by CoffeeNut
nightmare69 wrote:I open carried today at Walmart...just sayin.
Stop rubbing your LEO privilege in our face! :biggrinjester:

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:57 am
by AlaskanInTexas
G.A. Heath wrote:
jmra wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
Ruark wrote:
AlaskanInTexas wrote:I didn't wait for y'all. I open carried this weekend from Dallas all the way to Brighton, UT. Used a combination of the "traveling" exemption and a route through free states. I do have to report that I sat on a rock while out for a hike at my end destination and scuffed up holster.
You broke the law. A firearm carried in your car (with or without a CHL) must be concealed. Lucky you weren't pulled over, or you wouldn't be sitting there typing that.
Nope, he can open carry while traveling. It is the law or more specifically, it is an exception to apply the law.
Supportive evidence: Section 46.15 (b)(2).

Sec. 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY.
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
.....
(b) Section 46.02 does not apply to a person who:
....
(2) is traveling;
My concern would be the very likely probability that an officer making a stop would not be aware of that law and once he saw the gun in the open would not likely be in a mood to listen to me explain the law. Think I'll keep mine concealed.
Additionally there is the issue that there is little to no modern case law, if any, on the definition of travelling. The judge/jury may decide that any distance that is great enough that one might prefer to use transportation is travelling OR that one must be crossing the state line, or some obscure/arcane definition where someone has no protection under the travelling exemption.
For what it's worth, carrying a 1911 on the hip for 1200 miles is not that comfortable, so I would take it off in the minivan and put it in the console. If I were pulled over, I would have left it there. As for the concern about applicability of the traveling exemption, I have thoroughly researched the law and am completely confident that it applies when you drive 1,200 miles through four states without any interruption except for gas stations. It's my right; I don't mind taking a ride to defend it either. Plus, I only had one stop in Texas before entering the free states.

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:30 pm
by big454
189 days until
open carry :yawn

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:16 pm
by big454
187 Days left :cool:

Re: OPEN CARRY COUNTDOWN-

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:23 pm
by big454
185 Days left to open carry. I'm making alterations to an old holster, see how it turns out. ;-)