gregthehand wrote:I keep a Winchester 30-30 behind the back seat of my truck in a cheap gun bag. I have it secured with a padlock to the child seat mounts on the back wall of the cab. I can get it out and ready to go in about 20 - 30 seconds from being in the front seat to having it ready to go. It's not a fancy AR but it's a rifle I had sitting in the safe forever and it's not worth a whole lot of money. I figure I'm more likely to use it on a hog or deer at the ranch than on a threat and I didn't want to have an AR, AK, or other tactical rifle just because they are expensive and should it ever get stolen I wouldn't want to put one in to the hands of a criminal. I imagine if things went real bad I could at least defend myself with it if need be until the police arrived. When they did I wouldn't be holding so much of a "scary" gun.

Setxjeff wrote:I also keep Winchester 30-30 ,mossberg 22 along with 410 snake shotgun with lots of OOO buckshot shells. They are my least expensive guns and but are very useful. The 410 is short enough to be swung are inside the 4 door Chevy and 5 OOO Pellets are awesome. They are also less scary looking if something does happen and the LEO are called.
Honestly, I think both of you guys are being smart about it. A .30-30 cartridge is the rough ballistic equivalent of a 7.62x39mm AK cartridge, and it has sufficient range and power to deal with most "something arises" situations you are likely to run into. Unless you have a full-length magazine tube, your going to suffer in capacity somewhat, particularly compared to an AR/AK, but they reload quickly, and its a
rifle for crying out loud. It
ought to scare the bejabbers out of whomever you point it at. And like both of you pointed out, it's not an "evil black rifle" when the cops arrive.
Heck, it they're good enough for Longmire, they ought to be good enough for me. The only problem for me is that I live in a suburban environment, and I drive a mid-sized SUV (2015 4Runner). I don't have a trunk. I have factory-tinted rear windows and a retractable cover to hide the contents of the rear cargo area, but to my mind, when that is deployed, it shouts to anyone looking in the back window that there is something valuable hidden there that I don't want stolen.......in other words, it invites a break in. So it seems like my goal is to find a way of packaging a long gun in such a way as to either not make it a temptation, or to make it blend with the rest of the interior, like seat backs, etc. My car has a black interior, so I'm thinking that the black LaRue tactical bag I posted previously might be a way to do that.
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