Dr doesn't want to see me anymore

[Redneck_Buddha]

I resisted statins for 13 years until I discovered nothing I was going to do would bring my cholesterol down to a reasonable level and my resting BP was pretty regularly at 160/105. Started taking the simvastatin (generic Zocor) a mild HBP drug, bought a Versaclimber, started yoga, cut out red meat, fried food of any kind, pork, pizza, empty carbs, the whole nine. BP is now around 114/70, HR 53, bad cholesterol at 68, good cholesterol at 48, down 35 pounds. Hopefully on April 4th I will be taken off both the blood pressure meds and the statin. In this case, I'm glad I caved in to the statin.

Buddha, watch the link I just posted where Prof David Diamond is giving a talk. It's a talk he gives to cardiologists. High/total cholesterol is not a good marker for heart disease. I can give more links to credible MDs who are saying the same things.

Such as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL5-9ZxamXc

and Stanford School of Medicine's Christopher Gardner. Gardner is a vegan who says in their diet study that pitted Atkins, Traditional diet a cardiologist would prescribe, Ornish, and the Zone (A TO Z diet study)...he says Atkins won. Here's the lecture. Gardner was one of the signatures on the petition I linked to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo

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January 17, 2008 presentation by Christopher Gardner for the Stanford School of Medicine Medcast lecture series.


The case for low-carbohydrate diets is gaining weight. Christopher Gardner, PhD, assistant professor of medicine at the Stanford Prevention Research Center, has completed the largest and longest-ever comparison of four popular diets using real-world conditions, which he discusses - the lowest-carbohydrate Atkins diet came out on top.

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http://med.stanford.edu/

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I watched the entire video so I could comment rationally. Some things I buy, some I don't as I am very wary of studies. I belong to a Yahoo group called "Bitter Medicine" that continually challenges the madness that is medical and nutrition studies and conflicting science in general. No one has been served for the greater good with regards to cardio-vascular health, dietary, and fitness studies. I agree with a good bit of what Gardner says. I do believe in limiting carbs and restricting them to whole grains and other unprocessed sources like brown rice. For me it's all about balancing glycemic concerns with hopefully not going out of my mind with dietary restrictions and ultimately failing. I also never go over 1700 calories per day anymore, so I am a believer in portion control and nutrient density. But I don't believe that carbs need to be as restricted as he says they should be.

I categorically disagree with his statement that statins only help 1 in 146 patients. The lowest I've ever been able to get my total cholesterol with only diet, weight loss, and exercise is 199, and unlike Gardner I have seen other studies that say high LDL, triglycerides, and low HDL, no matter the balance, greatly increase the risk of cardiovascular events and those are the ones I choose to believe. Thanks for the link. It was interesting but I'm quite happy with this course I've taken. I feel and look better than I have in 21 years. Cheers!

[WTR]

My BIL is a Capt. for a major airline. During two of his medicals he had cholesterol over 400. He was warned. He gave up his favorite "trip" food(cheese burgers) and he took red yeast rice.. His cholesterol went down to about 180 in 6 months.

[Tracker]

Buddha, YouTube Peter Attia. He's a Johns Hopkins trained surgeon who was had been going into an aerospace engineering PhD before deciding to become an MD. He self describes himself as always having been obsessed with diet and exercise. His blog is http://eatingacademy.com

This is a good talk that he gives on how the dietary guidelines came about. It wasn't based upon any God science

http://youtu.be/nhzV-J1h0do

[mojo84]

Here is a thread that thoroughly discusses nutrition, cholesterol and statins. http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic. ... ty#p993099

A doctor should be able to chose who they want to serve, excluding emergency and extraordinary circumstances, just as we should be able to chose which doctor we want for our doctor.

With the coming of outcome based compensation, a doctor will expect a patient to be compliant with what the doctor believes will improve the patient's outcome. If not, why would the doctor want to keep a patient that causes him to be penalized and cost him money? Also, a doctor is seldom going to acquiesce and defer to a patient that has an internet doctorate to his that he earned through med school and subsequent training.

[Abraham]

Tracker,

You posted: "This is a good talk that he gives on how the dietary guidelines came about. It wasn't based upon any God science"

I don't know what God science is.

Would you please explain?