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Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:27 pm
by puma guy
JP171 wrote:
puma guy wrote:
JP171 wrote:the website is wrong and is your cert active, so what your sayin is that I am lying. and what site lists work history? As per the texas department of health certificate I have I was certified in September 0f 1991 so your out of luck. oh ok I see, wonder when they started doing that. I don't work in EMS it doesn't pay I make about 3 times what paramedic pay is, I stopped working in ems in 1995 or so and went into industrial refrigeration. as far as the website listing my date as 2/2 2007 I will call and talk to Brett or Fernando about it
I never said you were lying so don't accuse me of it. I am reporting what is on the website based on your challenge. My status is expired/active. I was certified in 1988, with one renewal and expired in 1996 as I recall. I worked in a refinery and got certified when I did a turn in Health, Safety and Environmental as part of the manager development program , so it shows me as a volunteer and there is no agency listing. By your posts and comments I assumed you worked in EMS Texas and I thanked you for it.
I have been a Paramedic in Texas for over 25 years,
texas department of health certificate I have I was certified in September 0f 1991
I stopped working in ems in 1995 or so and went into industrial refrigeration
Since by your own admission you stopped working in 1995 and worked in industrial refrigeration. That could be the reason you have no history on the website. You also said you were certified in 1991 and quit in 1995 that's only 4 years. All a little confusing. You may have documents confirming all you say you have done, but in the state of Texas' eyes you were licensed February 2, 2007. I'll check from time to time to see if Brett and Fernando get the website repaired and your info updated. Apparently it's a site you don't know about.
and what site lists work history?

I haven't and will not post the link to your info on Texas DSHS out of respect and for privacy, though it's public information and any one can find it on the website. I wish you all the best.
According to Fernando Posada the reason all my information has been removed is that I went to an inactive status in 2004, everything previous to that has been removed or was never entered when they went to the instant verification system, I went back to active in 2007, records indicate that I was still a volunteer with Channelview fire Dept in 2003 but isn't on the website. Also the military doesn't need to have a state cert but the TXSG does like it you have it, so I have kept it current and active and will continue to do so, Brett and I used to work together at Navarre Diamond together. Also told me that Texas doesn't keep track of other states certifications. Nor does it keep any records of Military unless it is used in reciprocity to gain texas certification. My wifes information is just an expiration date with no history and no cert date, for years hers said her cert date was 1/1/ 1900 and it shows no history either, my Sisters doesn't even show a level, just a expiry date, my Brother in law shows null and void with only an expiry date
OK. I'm gonna let it lay.

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:54 pm
by MechAg94
Two volunteer Stafford County firefighters have been suspended after they transported an 18-month old child to the hospital in a fire engine.
These guys were volunteers. They might get kicked out of the fire department, but I am sure they will be okay.

IMO. The girl was in the hospital inside of 15 minutes from the initial 911 call. Sounds like good response to me. IMO, better to get her there fast even if not in a the best transport than wait an indeterminate amount of time for EMT's to arrive when the hospital is only minutes away. Yeah, maybe a risky few minutes in transit, but I am not sure waiting held less risk. I don't see the point of second guessing their call. The only part I am surprised about is not bringing the father along in the engine.

Procedures are great things many times. I think we take the bureaucracy too far these days.

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:27 pm
by Daddio-on-patio
Jago668 I appreciate you clarifying your responses in what appeared to be a respectful tone. Thank you.

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:25 am
by howdy

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:37 am
by WildBill
howdy wrote:They are being reinstated:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/volunt ... li=BBnb4R7
:thumbs2:
The county’s fire chief Mark Lockhart said a review of the Feb. 27 incident found that the firefighters did not follow department protocol but conceded “there are situations that dictate decisions must be made on the fly.”

“We did find that department protocol was not followed and that will be addressed with the individuals involved,” Lockhart said.

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:44 am
by joe817
howdy wrote:They are being reinstated:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/volunt ... li=BBnb4R7
It looks like common sense prevailed! :shock: Imagine that. Good article howdy! Thanks for posting. :thumbs2:

Re: Firefighters Suspended for Taking Girl to Hospital

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:23 am
by C-dub
This reminds me of many "no exception" policies. There are always exceptions and it is impossible or nearly impossible to list all exceptions into a policy or procedure.

These guys got lucky that they didn't cause any harm to the child. Without the training they made the best decision they could have and got lucky. It would have been a terrible thing if it had been something else and their decision to move her was wrong.