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Nice -- Claim the elevators as a rides, would just need to expand the property to 75 acres.joe817 wrote:I'm surprised that Austin isn't claiming that their building is not an amusement park.
I dunno....as one who has made several trips there I am convinced that most of Austin is a 3 ring circus!stars200 wrote:Nice -- Claim the elevators as a rides, would just need to expand the property to 75 acres.joe817 wrote:I'm surprised that Austin isn't claiming that their building is not an amusement park.
It is full of clowns.stars200 wrote:Nice -- Claim the elevators as a rides, would just need to expand the property to 75 acres.joe817 wrote:I'm surprised that Austin isn't claiming that their building is not an amusement park.
kg5ie,kg5ie wrote:AG copied me on his letter to Betsy Price after my complaint about Will Rogers complex. The process is working, but slowly.
The original letter mentioned 30.06 signs had been put up at the entrances and in the entry hall. Sounds like those are gone. I assume the signs that replaced them apply to unlicensed carry of firearms or some such.Dear Judge Jenkins:
The Office of the Attorney General ("OAG") received a citizen complaint, pursuant to section
411.209 of the Government Code, concerning the wrongful exclusion of handgun license holders
from the Dallas County Government Center (the "center"), located at 10056 Marsh Lane, Dallas,
Texas 75220. By correspondence dated March 30, 2016, we notified Dallas County (the "'county")
of our determination that a violation of section 411.209 had occurred and that the county had
fifteen days to either cure the violation and come into compliance or submit detailed information
explaining why the county was not in violation.
By e-mail dated April 15, 2016, the county provided further information explaining the signs
forming the basis of the complaint were removed from the front entrance of the center and new
signs were placed near the entrances to the government courts that are located within the center.
Upon review, we conclude this modification of the posted signage is sufficient to bring the county
into compliance with section 411.209 of the Government (;ode and the relevant provisions of the
Penal Code. Accordingly, the OAG is closing this complaint.
Instead of 30.06 signs, Austin City Hall is giving verbal notice, which is still notice under 30.06. Mr. Cargill has filed an additional complaint with the AG due to the verbal notice.ELB wrote:New letter -- really, update to old letter about the Dallas County Government Center out as of 4/18:
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/fi ... t_Cntr.pdfThe original letter mentioned 30.06 signs had been put up at the entrances and in the entry hall. Sounds like those are gone. I assume the signs that replaced them apply to unlicensed carry of firearms or some such.Dear Judge Jenkins:
The Office of the Attorney General ("OAG") received a citizen complaint, pursuant to section
411.209 of the Government Code, concerning the wrongful exclusion of handgun license holders
from the Dallas County Government Center (the "center"), located at 10056 Marsh Lane, Dallas,
Texas 75220. By correspondence dated March 30, 2016, we notified Dallas County (the "'county")
of our determination that a violation of section 411.209 had occurred and that the county had
fifteen days to either cure the violation and come into compliance or submit detailed information
explaining why the county was not in violation.
By e-mail dated April 15, 2016, the county provided further information explaining the signs
forming the basis of the complaint were removed from the front entrance of the center and new
signs were placed near the entrances to the government courts that are located within the center.
Upon review, we conclude this modification of the posted signage is sufficient to bring the county
into compliance with section 411.209 of the Government (;ode and the relevant provisions of the
Penal Code. Accordingly, the OAG is closing this complaint.
Anybody in Dallas with looking for something to do?
They can post other signs to effect of "keep all loaded firearms holstered at all times" instead of 30.06/30.07 signs. Would work just fine.pt145ss wrote:In light of the Pasadena Letter, should we say something about SAXET posting 30.06/.07 signs at a gun show at the Ranch Park Event Center (owned by the City of Dripping Springs) the past weekend?
Unfortunately I did not get a picture of it.
To be frank, I'm on the fence about this. I think it may be way to tempting for someone with a CHL who is carrying at a gun show, to pull it out (the gun that is) to try a holster or something. Something about the atmosphere at a gun show because I get the feeling that one would think about the consequences more if they were at a gun shop as opposed to a gun show. Nothing to back that up, just a gut feeling. I suppose stupid people can be stupid anywhere they please, so may be my feeling is off base.
I suppose in the grand scheme of things, I would rather have my choice of carrying at a gun show and risk stupid people doing stupid things.
locke_n_load wrote:They can post other signs to effect of "keep all loaded firearms holstered at all times" instead of 30.06/30.07 signs. Would work just fine.pt145ss wrote:In light of the Pasadena Letter, should we say something about SAXET posting 30.06/.07 signs at a gun show at the Ranch Park Event Center (owned by the City of Dripping Springs) the past weekend?
Unfortunately I did not get a picture of it.
To be frank, I'm on the fence about this. I think it may be way to tempting for someone with a CHL who is carrying at a gun show, to pull it out (the gun that is) to try a holster or something. Something about the atmosphere at a gun show because I get the feeling that one would think about the consequences more if they were at a gun shop as opposed to a gun show. Nothing to back that up, just a gut feeling. I suppose stupid people can be stupid anywhere they please, so may be my feeling is off base.
I suppose in the grand scheme of things, I would rather have my choice of carrying at a gun show and risk stupid people doing stupid things.
You can draw your weapon as long as the use of force has been justified. It does not have to be deadly force. I.e. you can draw with the intent to de-escalate a situation. If you shoot, then you need the justification for deadly force.Jusme wrote: If an LTC holder unholsters a loaded gun, they are in violation if they do so without justification of needing to use deadly force. That applies at gun shows or the corner grocery store.
It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a), (a-1), (a-2), or (a-3) that the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been justified in the use of force or deadly force under Chapter 9.
Correct. This changed in 2013 with the passage of SB299 (Sen. Estes) that also changed the offense of not concealing one's handgun (TPC ยง46.035(a)).locke_n_load wrote:You can draw your weapon as long as the use of force has been justified. It does not have to be deadly force. I.e. you can draw with the intent to de-escalate a situation. If you shoot, then you need the justification for deadly force.Jusme wrote: If an LTC holder unholsters a loaded gun, they are in violation if they do so without justification of needing to use deadly force. That applies at gun shows or the corner grocery store.
It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a), (a-1), (a-2), or (a-3) that the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been justified in the use of force or deadly force under Chapter 9.
