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bbhack wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:01 am What would happen if I made several bump stocks that did not fit any existing rifle, and tried to sell them online?

Grumpy1993 wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:45 pm

bbhack wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:01 am What would happen if I made several bump stocks that did not fit any existing rifle, and tried to sell them online?

There's only one way to find out. Keep us updated please.

anygunanywhere wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:38 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Been watching too many teevee fiction cop shows lately? Like when they get DNA matches in milliseconds from the crime labs?

K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

WildRose wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:01 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

K.Mooneyham wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:46 pm

WildRose wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:01 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

WildRose wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:20 am

K.Mooneyham wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:46 pm

WildRose wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:01 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

They won't have much choice since unlawful possession of any NFA restricted item is also unlawful under Texas law.

As I said though; I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

K.Mooneyham wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:47 am

WildRose wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:20 am

K.Mooneyham wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:46 pm

WildRose wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:01 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:35 am

WildRose wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

crazy2medic wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm Tid Bit I learned today, my son works for a firearm distributor so I ask him about the ability of ATF to find somebody who had purchased a Bump Stock, he said it would be virtually impossible!
I find that interesting!

Shipping records and credit card receipts will create a direct line to most purchasers.

If they don't already have warrants for all the records of the producers and distributors you know they will ASAP.

Your theory sounds quite plausible. However, as I stated before, where are the resources in people and money to accomplish that goal?

ATF, FBI, State, and Local PD's.

In all likelihood they'll start with letters informing purchasers they now own an illegal device and advise them on how to lawfully dispose of them.

I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, are you suggesting that DPS and Texas county sheriffs are going to actively aid the ATF in the task of gathering up bumpstocks, and arresting those who possess them? Somehow, I don't think that is going to be a very popular position, though I can imagine that a couple of large city PDs in this state will be directed to arrest anyone caught with a bumpstock in their jurisdictions, solely based on the political affiliations of their Chiefs.

They won't have much choice since unlawful possession of any NFA restricted item is also unlawful under Texas law.

As I said though; I don't imagine door to door raids anytime soon.

So, you make it sound like the Federal government runs DPS and controls the Sheriffs in Texas. If that's the case, then maybe we need a law like a few other states have passed, stating that our state will not actively allocate resources to aid in any new gun control schemes. There are a LOT of criminals out there, actual bad folks doing bad things to other people, and police time and funding is a finite resource. Spending ANY of that going through the process of busting someone for a bumpstock is a gross waste of that time and money, IMHO.

howdy wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:11 am The things are useless now unless the ruling is overturned. You can't take it to the range, farm, gun range. If you have it outside, there is always the weird chance that it may be seen and you be the test case. It will be pretty obvious to a nearby game warden that you are shooting "fully automatic" if he hears that rifle being fired with a bump stock.

WildRose wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:56 pm

howdy wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:11 am The things are useless now unless the ruling is overturned. You can't take it to the range, farm, gun range. If you have it outside, there is always the weird chance that it may be seen and you be the test case. It will be pretty obvious to a nearby game warden that you are shooting "fully automatic" if he hears that rifle being fired with a bump stock.

Not to mention any meddling neighbors who will gladly pick up the phone and report that they are hearing automatic fire from your location.

Jason Todd wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:17 am

K.Mooneyham wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:31 am Wow, are you sure all you folks actually live in Texas? Some of those comments almost makes me want to move across the Red and live with them danged Okies!

I hear they let people keep and bear handguns without a license.