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Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:10 am
by Excaliber
I'm a big advocate of Level 3 holsters for law enforcement.
You may not understand why until you've rolled around on the ground a few times with someone who's bigger, stronger, and crazier than you trying to take your gun.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:50 am
by Wodathunkit
Wow! As a non-leo I never thought about that.

Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:28 am
by nightmare69
Thanks guys. Il look into a level 3 either from galls or go distributers.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:02 pm
by gigag04
Excaliber wrote:I'm a big advocate of Level 3 holsters for law enforcement.
You may not understand why until you've rolled around on the ground a few times with someone who's bigger, stronger, and crazier than you trying to take your gun.
QFT.
I always had a few other options had that fight started going the wrong way.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:05 pm
by Excaliber
nightmare69 wrote:Thanks guys. Il look into a level 3 either from galls or go distributers.
Last time I looked, the Safariland Level III's were the best made and the most instinctive to operate. That last bit is really important.
For holsters with an optional shield to protect the release lever, you want to take that option.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:04 am
by nightmare69
I'll check them out. I'm sure there are plenty of options for my sig p226.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:37 am
by nightmare69
Thoughts on NRA's new video on police and military?
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Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:05 am
by mojo84
How many times do we here about the use of military tactics to bust up terrorists in the USA versus serving warrants for non terrorist suspects? I think the military mission is different than the law enforcement/peace officer mission. Therefore, different tactics and strategy needs to be used. They reference the marathon bombing. How well did their domestic spying and military training work in preventing that?
I think the military tactics and mindset is overused domestically. Naming something a "war" doesn't justify militarizing the police.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:09 am
by talltex
nightmare69 wrote:Thoughts on NRA's new video on police and military?
I disagree with the argument the video presents to justify the increasing militarization of the police departments. It's using scare tactics to try and sway public opinion, by stating as "fact", that we are in a war against terrorist acts, at the local levels everywhere. That's simply not an accurate portrayal based on statistical evidence. I'm not saying that we do not face any danger from terrorist acts on U.S. soil, but it is not so pervasive and widespread as the spokespeople in this video present it to be, and the local Police Departments are not now, and were never intended to be, the first line of defense against terrorism. The odds of a US citizen being killed or injured by a terrorist attack at this time are miniscule and do not justify the huge proliferation of SWAT/SRT para-military units, at the local level, that has occurred in the last 20 years. This video attempts to address the concerns that many citizens have over these increases, by implying that those who oppose this buildup, and are concerned about the erosion of Constitutional protections, are a "fringe" faction worried that the government is going to use these para-military units to "come take their guns away". As I've stated before, I'm NOT concerned about that, because out in the country where I live, I know the officers personally, and they would refuse to obey any order to do so. Those people who live in other parts of the country, particularly metro areas such as Chicago and New York, have a legitimate reason for some concern. Like Mojo84, I would like to see the actual breakdown of how many times these SWAT/SRT units were actually deployed for high risk robbery and hostage incidents, as they were originally purposed for, vs. serving search and arrest warrants...no-knock or otherwise. THAT is my big concern..the overuse of the special units, in unecessary situations, just because they have all the equipment and toys and they want to use them.
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:12 am
by carlson1
talltex wrote:nightmare69 wrote:Thoughts on NRA's new video on police and military?
I disagree with the argument the video presents to justify the increasing militarization of the police departments.

"It is never right to do wrong so you can do right!"
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:01 am
by SQLGeek
Just wanted to drop back in and say congrats on graduating and getting hired. Stay safe out there and good luck on your field training!
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:43 am
by nightmare69
Thoughts on these Safariland Level 3 holsters?
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Also, what is the STX finish look like?
I'm going to go nylon on my duty rig, what are some good brands of nylon that will last?
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:25 pm
by nightmare69
Open face handcuff and mag holders or regular snap pouches?
Re: Police Academy Adventures
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:44 pm
by carlson1
nightmare69 wrote:Open face handcuff and mag holders or regular snap pouches?
The Nylon Cases I have seen were Velcro. I would defiantly want them cover with snap or Velcro, but not open.