...but owners need to take responsibility for their pets as well...
We just completed a stint as Volunteer Campground Hosts in Finley Point SP on Flathead Lake, MT. Dog owners and their "not my dog, etc., etc" attitude, were the biggest irritants. BTW, we are animal lovers; it's just that some of the animals' owners....er, uh, well you know.
There are a pair of dachshunds next door that bark all night half the time that I have been sorely tempted to shoot many, many times. I feel quite certain one round each from my Crosman 1077 would do them in. I keep offering my cats treats if they will go over and take those dogs out... either of my cats would easily take out both dogs if they really wanted to. Maybe the main hazard to this LEO was that if the dog kept barking, the LEO would wind up going berserk and killing himself.
Annoying little animals that serve no purpose I can see, other than keeping your neighbors up at night and raising the cost of mental health for the whole country. Those dang weenie dogs seem to be bred to do nothing but bark constantly. Shooting that dog was a merciful act benefiting the entire community.
You know I am kidding, sort of.
If the officer got fired then we had double benefit. Annoying yapping dog taken off the street along with a dangerous and moronic cop. Win-win in my book.
mr.72 wrote:There are a pair of dachshunds next door that bark all night half the time that I have been sorely tempted to shoot many, many times. I feel quite certain one round each from my Crosman 1077 would do them in. I keep offering my cats treats if they will go over and take those dogs out... either of my cats would easily take out both dogs if they really wanted to. Maybe the main hazard to this LEO was that if the dog kept barking, the LEO would wind up going berserk and killing himself.
Annoying little animals that serve no purpose I can see, other than keeping your neighbors up at night and raising the cost of mental health for the whole country. Those dang weenie dogs seem to be bred to do nothing but bark constantly. Shooting that dog was a merciful act benefiting the entire community.
You know I am kidding, sort of.
If the officer got fired then we had double benefit. Annoying yapping dog taken off the street along with a dangerous and moronic cop. Win-win in my book.
I think we have had this discussion before. Dogs usually bark because of something that is not right. The problem is usually the owners, not the dogs. Blaming the dogs is not the solution. If the owners are inconsiderate and leave the dogs out to bark at night, it is the OWNERS that need to be shot. If you can't approach your neighbors and get them to work with you on the issue, then you need to escalate the issue to law enforcement. If they fail to remedy the situation, then you need to get evidence of the disturbance and take the neighbors to court over the issue.
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So, did witnesses agree the tiny dog was actually trying to attack the brave officer? I'm guessing he says it was because that is the only possible thing he could say for shooting the dog for merely running up barking.
I agree with another poster who commented that this officer's inability to assess a threat accurately makes him scary.
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Keith B wrote:
I think we have had this discussion before.
Yes, you are right. I was just trying to make a bit of a joke :) And no, I am not willing to escalate this thing with my neighbors. They are clueless and careless about leaving the dogs out, but otherwise we get along just fine and I am sure the rest of our friendship would be sacrificed if I were to escalate the thing with the dogs. So it's just not worth it to me to go over and make a big deal about the dogs. We are likely to move away in a year or less anyway, so this may become a moot point. I'll make sure not to make friends with any new neighbors who have dogs next time. That way I won't risk ruining the friendship when I have to make a big deal about their barking dogs
KD5NRH wrote:If you duct taped one of them to the muzzle of a firearm, would it muffle the report? Maybe you can get BATF to take care of the problem for you.
Or maybe "Chili" could just go over there.
I nearly shot a neighbor's dog in self-defense a few weeks ago...not because I thought I couldn't just beat it into submission, but because when I was looking for an escape route I noticed Chili was about 50 yards away on the other side of me and reaching in his pocket.
Fortunately for all concerned, the dog turned and ran when I started to throw the lawnmower at it.
KD5NRH wrote:If you duct taped one of them to the muzzle of a firearm, would it muffle the report? Maybe you can get BATF to take care of the problem for you.
Or maybe "Chili" could just go over there.
I nearly shot a neighbor's dog in self-defense a few weeks ago...not because I thought I couldn't just beat it into submission, but because when I was looking for an escape route I noticed Chili was about 50 yards away on the other side of me and reaching in his pocket.
Fortunately for all concerned, the dog turned and ran when I started to throw the lawnmower at it.
Fortunate indeed.
I would hate be in-between, behind or anywhere around a dog with that guy around.
In the Washington, D.C., area this week, a U.S. Park Service mounted police officer was exercising two horses at a stable. He was set upon by a pack of 16 dogs. He fired his service piece and scared them off.
The dogs were found in the company of a woman who was "walking" them, along with four more dogs.
The woman was arrested on outstanding warrants for traffic violations. The dogs were taken by animal control.
Luckily for the officer(and the horses) he was in a corral or some other kind of fenced in area. With 16 dogs, the wolf pack mentality kicks in and can become deadly in a heartbeat. I'm a dog lover to be sure, but if that situation ever happened to me, out in the open, it's just a knee jerk reaction to start using deadly force to protect myself and property.
And what kind of a horse is that cop riding? A mule? He's got the face of one, but the ears are to short.
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About a week ago, while walking one of my shepherds and doing a little obedience training one of my neighbors Rotties broke through their fence and came after my boy. I didn't see him coming and didn't have time to get my weapon out before he was on him. He came up from behind and grabbed my boy by the neck. My boy just shook him loose and went after him and grabbed him by the neck. The owner, who was apparently in the backyard when his dog broke out, came running after his dog. His dog screamed when my boy grabbed him by the neck and it startled my boy and he let go. The Rottie tucked his nub and ran back to his owner. The guy put him inside and came back very concerned about my dog. I checked and couldn't find any damage. He asked me to check again because there was blood on his dog and he was certain that his dog had hurt mine. I ran my hands all over his head, neck, and shoulder area and couldn't fine anything.
A few days later, while walking my boy again, the guy came out to apologize and explain that the blood came from his dog. He had gone back inside and discovered his dog bleeding from two canine rips near the upper shoulder area. He took him to get him fixed up and just told the vet his two dogs got into it over a piece of meat.
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It all happened too fast and I didn't even get a chance to get my weapon out. I would have shot him if I'd seen him coming. The whole thing took maybe 5 seconds. In hindsight, I'm glad he went for my boy and not me. I don't think my legs, back, or arms would have fared as well.
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joe817 wrote:Luckily for the officer(and the horses) he was in a corral or some other kind of fenced in area.
The story said that the officer and horses were in a paddock. That is by definition a fenced area, but the fence is usually designed to keep horses in, not dogs out.
My experience with dogs and horses is that the dog is mostly bluffing and is timid of the horse. I've seen horses kick dogs that got too close and aggressive. It's a kick that can kill.
And what kind of a horse is that cop riding? A mule? He's got the face of one, but the ears are to short.
It's color is mulish, but it's some kind of draft horse. I think it's a stock photo that has nothing to do with the story.