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Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:00 am
by chabouk
Mikel wrote:I kinda like her but the CHL requirements are not unreasonable now. I actually like the way the CHL rules/laws are now though. It seems taking the CHL away opens up the ability to carry to people who should not be allowed to AND opens up the debate for doing away with concealed carry-THAT SCARES ME.
Because scary people who shouldn't carry, absolutely positively, never ever carry anyway?

Laws prohibit, they do not prevent. No law saying "Thou shalt not..." ever stopped anyone who decided to do so anyway.

Laws only restrict the law-abiding, not the criminal.

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:00 am
by sjfcontrol
boomerang wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:It was my understanding she wanted to eliminate the property tax to be replaced by a SALES tax, not an income tax.
That would be great. Tax consumption, not saving.
You want to expound on that? I don't get your meaning. :headscratch

Oh, I get it. A tax ON Consumption, not on savings. Well actually, on Consumption, not on Savings or Income.
Always seemed to me that consumption taxes were the most broad-based taxes, and also the most structured and easiest to manage. They hit everybody (good in my book). Also, they keep the government out of your personal business -- value of home, income level, etc.

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:23 am
by bdickens
OH GOOD GOD! She's posing for a picture! Get over it!

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:50 am
by sjfcontrol
Nothing to get over. I just didn't think it was too bright a thing to do. :yawn

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:07 pm
by tarkus
At least she didn't pose with a gun on a police car. :lol:

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:52 pm
by sjfcontrol
You mean -- "Assuming the Position"?
:biggrinjester:

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:02 pm
by sjfcontrol
bdickens wrote:OH GOOD GOD! She's posing for a picture! Get over it!
And beside -- Would you say "Get over it" if she had posed with child porn, or smoking a joint? I don't think so.

Illegal is illegal, concealed is concealed.

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:42 pm
by boomerang
sjfcontrol wrote:
bdickens wrote:OH GOOD GOD! She's posing for a picture! Get over it!
And beside -- Would you say "Get over it" if she had posed with child porn, or smoking a joint? I don't think so.
Since when does "the right to keep and bear arms" equal child pornography? :nono:

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:18 pm
by sjfcontrol
Since when is illegal not illegal?

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:30 pm
by Aggie_engr
Finger in the trigger or not, I like that she has the gall to show everyone who she really is and I like what she has to say. I really hope she at least gets to debate the other candidates, as I'd like to hear more from her.

P.S.- IMO she could use a basic pistol safety course, but at least she is like minded and prepared. :txflag:

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:37 pm
by boomerang
sjfcontrol wrote:Since when is illegal not illegal?
1791

"shall not be infringed"

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:49 pm
by sjfcontrol
boomerang wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:Since when is illegal not illegal?
1791

"shall not be infringed"
Fine -- I suggest you strap a big honkin' pistol to your hip and walk thru any major downtown area in Texas. We'll see what happens. Illegal is Illegal regardless of the Constitution (unfortunately). I don't like it ether, but that's the way it is. If I had my way, NONE of what the current administration is attempting would succeed, because it's ALL unconstitutional. But it's been a while since that seemed to matter. I'd like to see RKBA opened up, too. But it currently is not. We have CHL and Castle and MPA, so things are improving. Hopefully it will continue to get better. But in the meantime...

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:51 pm
by Liberty
boomerang wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:It was my understanding she wanted to eliminate the property tax to be replaced by a SALES tax, not an income tax.
That would be great. Tax consumption, not saving.
The problem with increasing state sales taxes is that it encourages people to spend money over the internet and other states. I believe that that would be bad for Texas businesses. We already have one of the highest sales tax in the country.

She misses the point also. the solution isn't more taxes it's less spending.

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:28 am
by KD5NRH
bdickens wrote:OH GOOD GOD! She's posing for a picture! Get over it!
It's funny though: if Perry poses with a gun (that he's obviously spent a lot more time with than she has) he's just grandstanding.

Re: Texas gubernatorial candidate says end CHL law

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:44 am
by KD5NRH
Liberty wrote:The problem with increasing state sales taxes is that it encourages people to spend money over the internet and other states.
One of the issues with sales tax already is lack of enforcement: hang out near the front of Tractor Supply this time of year and watch the people obviously doing their Christmas shopping and using their "farm use" tax number. The same goes for all the "farm truck" plates in the bar parking lots. IMO, if this type of abuse could be stopped, revenue could be increased pretty dramatically without a significant increase in the tax rates.