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Cedar Park Dad wrote:When has a major piece of legislation been overturned via defunding?

http://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/20 ... lence.aspx - concerning lifting a freeze on federal funding for "gun violence" research.......funding had previously been signed into law, and then funding was frozen.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaki ... -in-house/ - concerning the defunding of Planned Parenthood......funding which was previously signed into law.

And as I wrote in my previous post, this is not about defunding..... it is about Reid's efforts to reduce the cloture requirement to a simple majority. That has HUGE implications for a whole host of other things besides Obamacare. Go back and read all of my first post in this thread. It concerns Senate approval of a whole bunch of Obama's judicial and bureaucratic nominees who will be with us LONG after Obama is gone from office. Reid has been trying to get the cloture requirement reduced for this reason exactly, for a very long time. Getting it done for Obamacare is just a ruse.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:When has a major piece of legislation been overturned via defunding?

http://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/20 ... lence.aspx - concerning lifting a freeze on federal funding for "gun violence" research.......funding had previously been signed into law, and then funding was frozen.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaki ... -in-house/ - concerning the defunding of Planned Parenthood......funding which was previously signed into law.

And as I wrote in my previous post, this is not about defunding..... it is about Reid's efforts to reduce the cloture requirement to a simple majority. That has HUGE implications for a whole host of other things besides Obamacare. Go back and read all of my first post in this thread. It concerns Senate approval of a whole bunch of Obama's judicial and bureaucratic nominees who will be with us LONG after Obama is gone from office. Reid has been trying to get the cloture requirement reduced for this reason exactly, for a very long time. Getting it done for Obamacare is just a ruse.

Same House. Were either passed in the Senate?
EDIT: I think the gun violence one was passed. $2.6mm is nothing though and the Senate agreed. The Senate is not going to agree.

I look forward to the constant news reports blaming the Republicans for why the Navy can't fly fighters, kids can't eat, and cats and dogs can no longer live together in peace and harmony

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:When has a major piece of legislation been overturned via defunding?

http://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/20 ... lence.aspx - concerning lifting a freeze on federal funding for "gun violence" research.......funding had previously been signed into law, and then funding was frozen.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaki ... -in-house/ - concerning the defunding of Planned Parenthood......funding which was previously signed into law.

And as I wrote in my previous post, this is not about defunding..... it is about Reid's efforts to reduce the cloture requirement to a simple majority. That has HUGE implications for a whole host of other things besides Obamacare. Go back and read all of my first post in this thread. It concerns Senate approval of a whole bunch of Obama's judicial and bureaucratic nominees who will be with us LONG after Obama is gone from office. Reid has been trying to get the cloture requirement reduced for this reason exactly, for a very long time. Getting it done for Obamacare is just a ruse.

Seems like Reid changing the rules of the Senate to get what he wants is more "unconstitutional" than what Cruz is being accused of doing. What am I missing?

Also, how do you dig yourself out of a hole? How do you borrow yourself out of debt? Lot's of questions you are ignoring.

And all of that nonsense originates with this guy:

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Those are excellent.

OK folks, stop the attacks now. Senior members know better and are not immune from being banned for rule violations.

Has it begun?

Cruz vows filibuster ‘until I am no longer able to stand’

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -able-sta/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Watch the filibuster live.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Deb ... 7441638-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jaguar wrote:Watch the filibuster live.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Deb ... 7441638-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Blocked at work. Is he doing the whole Rand Paul/Mr. Smith stand up and everything? I hope he brought comfy shoes. I couldn't do that.

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

Jaguar wrote:Watch the filibuster live.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Deb ... 7441638-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Blocked at work. Is he doing the whole Rand Paul/Mr. Smith stand up and everything? I hope he brought comfy shoes. I couldn't do that.

Yep, Sen Mike Lee is speaking now.

Cedar Park Dad wrote: The House should shut up and merrily follow up with a bill that keeps that keeps or even increases the sequester.

Keep printing more money to further devalue the dollar?

This has to stop.

Deficit spending.

It is not sustainable.

Anygunanywhere

The Annoyed Man wrote:

1. Republicans don't have a prayer of regaining the Senate any time soon: http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/histor ... rtydiv.htm

   113th Congress (2013-2015)
   Majority Party: Democrat (53 seats)
   Minority Party: Republican (45 seats)
   Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
   Total Seats: 100
   Note: Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) died on June 3, 2013. He was replaced by Jeffrey Chiesa (R-NJ) on June 6, 2013, making the party division 52 Democrats, 46 Republicans, and 2 Independents (who both caucus with the Democrats).

   Republicans would have to gain NINE seats: six seats to make up the deficit between democrats and republicans just to even out at 50%; one more seat to gain a 1 seat edge; plus TWO more seats to offset the two independents who caucus with the democrats.......and that assumes that Senator Jeffrey Chiesa (R-NJ, appointed by Gov. Chris Cristi) can hold onto his seat in 2014, in democrat dominated New Jersey. That ain't gonna happen. Not in one election cycle. MAYBE in 3 or 4 election cycles, but senate terms are 6 years long and by then AHA will have been law of the land for 20 years or more and it will be permanent.........just like social security, medicare, food stamps, welfare, dept of education, and other unconstitutional abominations, as RoyGBiv pointed out earlier. Republican dreams of recapturing the senate are pipe dreams. Nothing more. I am 61 years old, and I cannot imagine the Senate regaining a conservative majority within the remainder of my lifetime.

Not following your math. If "we" currently have 46 seats, and we gain FIVE more (not 9), then we will have 51 seats, and "they" will have 49 (regardless of the division between Dem and Ind).

Jaguar wrote:Watch the filibuster live.

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Senate-Deb ... 7441638-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

C-SPAN2 has Cruz C-SPAN has Reid hurling ultimatums.

anygunanywhere wrote:Cornyn and McConnell show true colors.

Cornyn needs to go.

Forever.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/m ... 97228.html

A spokeswoman for McConnell’s top lieutenant, Minority Whip John Cornyn of Texas, said that Cornyn too will break with Cruz and Lee.

Anygunanywhere

You no longer think the GOP will save us?

Cedar Park Dad wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Wendy Davis is DOA in any statewide political race. I hope she's the candidate for Senator or Governor. BTW, I want Cornyn reelected. We don't need to Senators with no seniority or power.

Chas.

Agreed on the Cornyn part for those exact reasons. I fear the Cruz may have screwed the pooch a little with the other Republicans in the Senate (I guess Democrats as well) as he's not a senior member and made some waves.

I'm interested in your reasoning on why you think Davis (why does my head say Brown when I type that - yikes) won't take a statewide race?
If this isn't appropriate for the thread we can take private.

She's a liberal Democrat with no support among moderates and she's despised by conservatives.

Chas.