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mamabearCali wrote:He told people he was planning on shooting someone.........well that was stupid.

As for the bit about a second bill of rights. We have a procedure to amend the constitution.....if we want to have that stuff, we can.

I agree with you 100%. It was stupid and I dont like what he did - but I have a problem with him receiving a prison sentence for saying that he intended to shoot someone who invades his abode.

As I said, I dont like what he did - but his sanctuary was violated.

Just because we have the right to, doesnt always mean that it's the right thing to do.

There is a reason why one tries EVERY other option before one uses lethal force. You can be 100% justified but things get twisted just so and words get turned around on you.

Lethal force is the last option, but when you need it you need it.

Kaarma is found guilty of murder by 12 tried and true. See: http://www.kulr8.com/story/27657202/kaa ... -of-murder" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imho....

1) Any state can bring charges against a member of another state if they committed a crime that is punishable. That is international law.... Other instances where this is routinely practiced is sex tourism, terrorism, drug offenses or weapons trafficking.

2) Anyone that sets a trap with the published intent on killing a burglar is an idiot.

3) Anyone that records such an act is even dumber.

4) Anyone that thinks it makes a difference what nationality the burglar was and doesn't see it for murder, is equally foolish.

5) Even in the most backwards places, this is not considered protection of one self and would not fall under the castle doctrine. As gun owner you are not allowed to be cop, judge, jury and executioner.

The jury got the case after both sides presented their arguments and he lost. Obviously his proclamation of wanting to shoot a burglar did him in and it was murder. Germany has no reason to want to extradite a man that is going to receive a harsher sentence in the US than he would in Germany and it was most likely a means to ensure that he is persecuted to the fullest extent of the law and no back room deal is made.

Coffee....

Grisu wrote:Imho....

1) Any state can bring charges against a member of another state if they committed a crime that is punishable. That is international law.... Other instances where this is routinely practiced is sex tourism, terrorism, drug offenses or weapons trafficking.

2) Anyone that sets a trap with the published intent on killing a burglar is an idiot.

3) Anyone that records such an act is even dumber.

4) Anyone that thinks it makes a difference what nationality the burglar was and doesn't see it for murder, is equally foolish.

5) Even in the most backwards places, this is not considered protection of one self and would not fall under the castle doctrine. As gun owner you are not allowed to be cop, judge, jury and executioner.

The jury got the case after both sides presented their arguments and he lost. Obviously his proclamation of wanting to shoot a burglar did him in and it was murder. Germany has no reason to want to extradite a man that is going to receive a harsher sentence in the US than he would in Germany and it was most likely a means to ensure that he is persecuted to the fullest extent of the law and no back room deal is made.

Coffee....

I guess that justice was served on both burglar and home owner.

suthdj wrote:

Grisu wrote:Imho....

1) Any state can bring charges against a member of another state if they committed a crime that is punishable. That is international law.... Other instances where this is routinely practiced is sex tourism, terrorism, drug offenses or weapons trafficking.

2) Anyone that sets a trap with the published intent on killing a burglar is an idiot.

3) Anyone that records such an act is even dumber.

4) Anyone that thinks it makes a difference what nationality the burglar was and doesn't see it for murder, is equally foolish.

5) Even in the most backwards places, this is not considered protection of one self and would not fall under the castle doctrine. As gun owner you are not allowed to be cop, judge, jury and executioner.

The jury got the case after both sides presented their arguments and he lost. Obviously his proclamation of wanting to shoot a burglar did him in and it was murder. Germany has no reason to want to extradite a man that is going to receive a harsher sentence in the US than he would in Germany and it was most likely a means to ensure that he is persecuted to the fullest extent of the law and no back room deal is made.

Coffee....

I guess that justice was served on both burglar and home owner.

One thing is for sure, neither is likely to repeat their offense.