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OldCurlyWolf wrote:

jb2012 wrote:I just don't unserstand how people can be so evil.

I don't understand them either.

I am well aware that they exist.

The only way to really stop them is to do so permanently.

I agree!

Beiruty wrote:http://www.isisnotinmyname.com/

https://youtu.be/wfYanI-zJes

Beiruty,

Respect your opinion but I do not believe that you are correct in saying that they are not evil. How can one possibly not believe in good vs. evil after seeing these attacks and that there must be an absolute standard against which all actions must be measured / judged?

And, while it is a welcoming piece of news to see that there are a few moderates voicing their condemnation of the radicals, there are still far too few. I hope that the activism of the moderates against radical Islamic Jihad is a growing trend.

http://theantimedia.org/america-your-so ... misguided/

The alternative view is now coming out. It was George Bush's fault.

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Beiruty wrote:http://www.isisnotinmyname.com/

https://youtu.be/wfYanI-zJes

Beiruty,

Respect your opinion but I do not believe that you are correct in saying that they are not evil. How can one possibly not believe in good vs. evil after seeing these attacks and that there must be an absolute standard against which all actions must be measured / judged?

And, while it is a welcoming piece of news to see that there are a few moderates voicing their condemnation of the radicals, there are still far too few. I hope that the activism of the moderates against radical Islamic Jihad is a growing trend.

Of cours I do belive in good and evil.

Usually, the acts are classified as allowed and forbidden, that is good deeds and bad deads. Those who commit a forbiden act against another, would be conisdered sinful, and acted in wicked and evil manner. Example from the not so old history, bandits (terrorist in today's lingo) who raid caravans at night, killing everyone and looting their belongins. For the vicitims and surviors the bandits were evil and horrible savage animals. For, the outlaws, it is a way of life and they way they make their living.

Beiruty wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Beiruty wrote:http://www.isisnotinmyname.com/

https://youtu.be/wfYanI-zJes

Beiruty,

Respect your opinion but I do not believe that you are correct in saying that they are not evil. How can one possibly not believe in good vs. evil after seeing these attacks and that there must be an absolute standard against which all actions must be measured / judged?

And, while it is a welcoming piece of news to see that there are a few moderates voicing their condemnation of the radicals, there are still far too few. I hope that the activism of the moderates against radical Islamic Jihad is a growing trend.

Of cours I do belive in good and evil.

Usually, the acts are classified as allowed and forbidden, that is good deeds and bad deads. Those who commit a forbiden act against another, would be conisdered sinful, and acted in wicked and evil manner. Example from the not so old history, bandits (terrorist in today's lingo) who raid caravans at night, killing everyone and looting their belongins. For the vicitims and surviors the bandits were evil and horrible savage animals. For, the outlaws, it is a way of life and they way they make their living.

Doesn't matter that it was how they made their living, it's still evil.

Since Cain slew Able, evil has tried to conceal itself in a cloak of respectability. There have always been fools who buy it because they cannot bear to see what is right in front of their face.

Beiruty wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Beiruty wrote:http://www.isisnotinmyname.com/

Beiruty,

Respect your opinion but I do not believe that you are correct in saying that they are not evil. How can one possibly not believe in good vs. evil after seeing these attacks and that there must be an absolute standard against which all actions must be measured / judged?

And, while it is a welcoming piece of news to see that there are a few moderates voicing their condemnation of the radicals, there are still far too few. I hope that the activism of the moderates against radical Islamic Jihad is a growing trend.

Of cours I do belive in good and evil.

Usually, the acts are classified as allowed and forbidden, that is good deeds and bad deads. Those who commit a forbiden act against another, would be conisdered sinful, and acted in wicked and evil manner. Example from the not so old history, bandits (terrorist in today's lingo) who raid caravans at night, killing everyone and looting their belongins. For the vicitims and surviors the bandits were evil and horrible savage animals. For, the outlaws, it is a way of life and they way they make their living.

Beiruty,

Thanks. So I think that your example provides a good basis for discussion. For me, that example (of the bandits) is one of moral relativism. That is, anything is acceptable as long as we can somehow justify it. That is why we need God given laws that, for example, proclaim the absolute sanctity of human life.

Ben Shapiro: The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

The Peaceful Majority are irrelevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOF7y-KuHE

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Beiruty wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:

Beiruty wrote:http://www.isisnotinmyname.com/

Beiruty,

Respect your opinion but I do not believe that you are correct in saying that they are not evil. How can one possibly not believe in good vs. evil after seeing these attacks and that there must be an absolute standard against which all actions must be measured / judged?

And, while it is a welcoming piece of news to see that there are a few moderates voicing their condemnation of the radicals, there are still far too few. I hope that the activism of the moderates against radical Islamic Jihad is a growing trend.

Of cours I do belive in good and evil.

Usually, the acts are classified as allowed and forbidden, that is good deeds and bad deads. Those who commit a forbiden act against another, would be conisdered sinful, and acted in wicked and evil manner. Example from the not so old history, bandits (terrorist in today's lingo) who raid caravans at night, killing everyone and looting their belongins. For the vicitims and surviors the bandits were evil and horrible savage animals. For, the outlaws, it is a way of life and they way they make their living.

Beiruty,

Thanks. So I think that your example provides a good basis for discussion. For me, that example (of the bandits) is one of moral relativism. That is, anything is acceptable as long as we can somehow justify it. That is why we need God given laws that, for example, proclaim the absolute sanctity of human life.

Good Muslims cannot not justify terrorism, i.e. attacking innocent civilians.

VMI77 wrote:Ben Shapiro: The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

The Peaceful Majority are irrelevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOF7y-KuHE

I would not want that lady after me. She might rip me to shreds.

It would be good to see the Muslims that claim to be peaceful and moderate step up their efforts to help eliminate the radical extremists rather than spend so much time and effort trying to convince us non-Muslims they are not all radical extremists.

Beiruty, Can you shed some light on what the "non-radical" Muslims are doing to fight the radical extremists around the world? This is not a dig or an effort to hammer or attack you. It is a sincere honest question asked in the interest of learning more specifics. I have met and read some of Walid Shoebat's work and I am having trouble reconciling the idea of non-radical Muslims in light of what he says. He is a former PLO radical Muslim terrorist that has since converted to Christianity and he is a firm believer that all Muslims, if they are true to the Koran, would be radical and extreme towards all non Muslims. It seems his contention is the ones that are not radical extremists are not faithful Muslims.

Again, this is not intended to be a religious discussion but a discussion about how non-radical Muslims view and respond to the ones they say are radical Muslims and do not truly represent Islam. If you'd rather, I'd accept and read a PM.

I am at work right now.
Let us start
1) Afghanistan, the government is fighting the Taliban and their remnants.
2) Iraq, Shia led government is fighting ISIS.
3) Iraq, Kurds (Sunnis) are fighting ISIS.
4) Lebanon (All sects) and Lebanese Army are fighting ISIS and their Wahhabists supporters. .
5) Egypt Army under President SiSi is fighting Islamic Brotherhood, and ISIS supporters in Sina and everywhere in Egypt.
6) Algeria and since 1980 are fighting extermists and terrorists.
7) Tunis are also fighting Terrorists.
8) Morocco king and his people are fighting terrorism.

USSR invades Afghanistan and US armed and funded bin-laden and left Al-Qua'eda in the vacuum of no-state.
USA invaded Iraq and left Islamic State under Zarqawee, then ISIS under the vacuum when US forces left Iraq.
UE, NATO and US' President leading from behind bombed Kaddafy out of office and left the whole country for ISIS supporter to rule and slaughter uncontested. Another vacuum for terrorist to have space to spread their legs.
Syria, let us have an "Arab Spring" let us kick the tyrant of Syria out of office and let us draw few red lines, all crossed and let the tyrant destroy and kill his people. Let them have a blood bath and millions of refugee.

Foreign policy is crazy.

The Marine Corps hymn: "...to the shores of Tripoli...". President Jefferson sent the U.S. Marines to stop the muslim pirates along the Barbary Coast some 200 years ago. Today's muslim acts of murder and mayhem are nothing new. It just may be be, but this infidel considers the destruction of several building and the murder of some 3,000 civilians on 9/11/01 to be evil. The televised cheers of muslim supporters of the 9/11 attacks were evil. The list of bombings and murder of civilians goes on and on and is as evil as evil gets.

No, today's savagery and barbaric murders are not the result of US involvement in the Middle East. Today's savagery, murder and mayhem by muslims began some 600 years after the birth of Christ. Look it up.

Oldgringo wrote:The Marine Corps hymn: "...to the shores of Tripoli...". President Jefferson sent the U.S. Marines to stop the muslim pirates along the Barbary Coast some 200 years ago. Today's muslim acts of murder and mayhem are nothing new. It just may be be, but this infidel considers the destruction of several building and the murder of some 3,000 civilians on 9/11/01 to be evil. The televised cheers of muslim supporters of the 9/11 attacks were evil. The list of bombings and murder of civilians goes on and on and is as evil as evil gets.

No, today's savagery and barbaric murders are not the result of US involvement in the Middle East. Today's savagery, murder and mayhem by muslims began some 600 years after the birth of Christ. Look it up.

Yes look it up, there was not much war in the first 27 yrs to conquer the whole old world. Blood bath really started at the days of crusaders.

Going back thousands of years and blaming others for today's violence isn't productive. At some point, we all have to quit looking back to find someone else to blame so that our actions today can be justified.

Here is a different perspective on the crusades and the effect they had. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/200 ... ml?start=1