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cb1000rider wrote: No one here wants active violent criminals to be licensed to carry firearms. But clearly there are many of us who don't want to put our gun rights in the hands of anyone working for the government without some level of judicial oversight.
That should be a red flag to everyone. In my experience, once something gets into a government database it tends to stay there unless there is a court order to remove it. Since that particular database is only open to LE and Government agencies....and then only after approval of an application to access it....who's going to be keeping an eye on it to see if it's ever purged of old entries after a certain period of years?bones281 wrote:I'm not sure if they purge the system, but I've seen people on there that have listing from years ago. As far as getting access I had to go through my department head and they sent my application to DPS for authorization. The way I see it if DPS were to run a DL it should link them to TxGang if they're listed on there.
It sounds like you don't know how they get added to the list.bones281 wrote:I'm not sure if they purge the system, but I've seen people on there that have listing from years ago. As far as getting access I had to go through my department head and they sent my application to DPS for authorization. The way I see it if DPS were to run a DL it should link them to TxGang if they're listed on there.
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Guilt by association is a slippery slope, a very slippery slope. I understand that the term "gang" connotes a very negative image in the minds of most people and rightfully so. So does the term "terrorist" and there are elected officials that are calling for NRA members, concealed carry licensees and even any gun owners to be labeled as terrorists. There are Democrats who argue the same for Tea Party Republicans.
Once we allow the government to deny rights to a person who has not committed a crime based upon the government's unilateral decision to label that person as undesirable, then Pandora's Box as been opened and freedom is on its way to extension. Let's focus on constitutional protections, not the ownership of the ox getting gored.
As a practical matter, if gangs recruit people with a clean record so they can carry a gun during gang "activities," it won't take long for them to lose their LTC.
Chas.
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Guilt by association is a slippery slope, a very slippery slope. I understand that the term "gang" connotes a very negative image in the minds of most people and rightfully so. So does the term "terrorist" and there are elected officials that are calling for NRA members, concealed carry licensees and even any gun owners to be labeled as terrorists. There are Democrats who argue the same for Tea Party Republicans.
Once we allow the government to deny rights to a person who has not committed a crime based upon the government's unilateral decision to label that person as undesirable, then Pandora's Box as been opened and freedom is on its way to extension. Let's focus on constitutional protections, not the ownership of the ox getting gored.
1 million% agree!
As a practical matter, if gangs recruit people with a clean record so they can carry a gun during gang "activities," it won't take long for them to lost their LTC.
Chas.
