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I will vote for the capitalist. I will vote against the socialist. That is voting my conscience.

Jim Beaux wrote:Instead of denigrating those of us who will no longer run with the herd & support an unprincipled candidate & a corrupt system, maybe you should consider the future for your children & grandchildren. If we lose our constitution it will not be because of a president, but a malignant system.

I will not look at my sons and tell them that everything I taught them was morally right, I went against.

I am thinking of my grandchildren when I do the best I can in a bad, no critical situation. You can teach your sons to "sit this one out" because you don't like the choices, but I'll tell mine to suit up and fight the best they can fight. Doing nothing is not an option.

Chas.

Lord forbid American Merkel gets elected, I will personally blame all of those "principled" so called pro-2A supporters who decided to "sit this one out" with their self righteous "we are the true Conservatives" indignation.

Some are my friends still, but trust me, if that happens they are my friends no more. "Sitting it out" is giving your vote to Lib fascists who will already have thousands of dead people voting illegitimately (some are morally and spiritually dead already).

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Jim Beaux wrote:Instead of denigrating those of us who will no longer run with the herd & support an unprincipled candidate & a corrupt system, maybe you should consider the future for your children & grandchildren. If we lose our constitution it will not be because of a president, but a malignant system.

I will not look at my sons and tell them that everything I taught them was morally right, I went against.

I am thinking of my grandchildren when I do the best I can in a bad, no critical situation. You can teach your sons to "sit this one out" because you don't like the choices, but I'll tell mine to suit up and fight the best they can fight. Doing nothing is not an option.

Chas.

Ive made my choice & will be voting for the candidate who best represents my values.

parabelum wrote:Lord forbid American Merkel gets elected, I will personally blame all of those "principled" so called pro-2A supporters who decided to "sit this one out" with their self righteous "we are the true Conservatives" indignation.

Some are my friends still, but trust me, if that happens they are my friends no more. "Sitting it out" is giving your vote to Lib fascists who will already have thousands of dead people voting illegitimately (some are morally and spiritually dead already).

Charles L. Cotton wrote:My vote for Trump isn't a vote for the Republican Party or the Republican candidate. It's a vote against the person who will complete the destruction of America, not merely the Second Amendment. I do not vote with blinders on, nor out of any naive loyalty to the Republican Party. There are two people running and I'm voting for the best last chance to save the country.

Chas.

I absolutely agree with everything you have posted in this thread! If Clinton gets to appoint the judges the second amendment is over and done with. The boarders will be open and healthcare and education will tank due to all of the influx across the boarder. We have a proven liar in Clinton who went to bed when the phone rang. The Russian reset was a reset to the cold war. I know what Clinton can do we have proof. Time for someone else to try to answer the phone. Mr Trump has been right about everything to this point. He isn't PC, neither am I. I say what I think. That is the first amendment.

God bless America. Lets keep our 3 branches of government separate. Vote for the unproven one, cause the proven one has been proven wrong, wrong, wrong. DON"T set this one out!! Too many solders have died for your right to vote, don't let their efforts be in vain.

Not voting or voting for a 3rd party is essentially voting for Hillary. I voted for Cruz in the primary but WILL vote for Trump in the general election.

How about we all vote or don't vote and stop insulting and insinuating those with differing opinions are of lesser intelligence or lower character.

We didn't get in this predicament over night. It happened on our watch. The infighting and insults by insinuation are detrimental.

Let's keep in mind, Supreme Court appointees must be confirmed by the Senate.

I'm really liking Melana for a First Lady.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:My vote for Trump isn't a vote for the Republican Party or the Republican candidate. It's a vote against the person who will complete the destruction of America, not merely the Second Amendment. I do not vote with blinders on, nor out of any naive loyalty to the Republican Party. There are two people running and I'm voting for the best last chance to save the country.

Chas.

Charles, I'm not in the business of suggesting to people how they should vote anymore, so I did not mean to suggest that you or anyone else here is voting blindly. But I have a question, IF there were either an acceptable 3rd party candidate or acceptable independent candidate alternative who had a reasonable chance (meaning "not entirely out of the range of possibility) of splitting off enough democrat, republican, and independent voters to have a shot at winning......and he/she had a pretty decent platform and wasn't a complete tool, would you be willing to consider that option? Or, do you think it is important that the nominee be a republican for other reasons......like which party controls Congress, for instance?

In fact, I'd ask all of you who are supporting more or less grudgingly supporting Trump the same question. And I'm not asking it to make a point. I'm just curious to know — given the peculiar dynamics of this election cycle and the dysfunction of the republican party — how much of the support for Trump is enthusiastic, and how much is simply a vote against Clinton. But again, I'm not going to presume to suggest that y'alls picks are wrong.......just not necessarily the same as mine.

In other words, are people playing offense or defense? I'm playing defense.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:My vote for Trump isn't a vote for the Republican Party or the Republican candidate. It's a vote against the person who will complete the destruction of America, not merely the Second Amendment. I do not vote with blinders on, nor out of any naive loyalty to the Republican Party. There are two people running and I'm voting for the best last chance to save the country.

Chas.

Charles, I'm not in the business of suggesting to people how they should vote anymore, so I did not mean to suggest that you or anyone else here is voting blindly. But I have a question, IF there were either an acceptable 3rd party candidate or acceptable independent candidate alternative who had a reasonable chance (meaning "not entirely out of the range of possibility) of splitting off enough democrat, republican, and independent voters to have a shot at winning......and he/she had a pretty decent platform and wasn't a complete tool, would you be willing to consider that option? Or, do you think it is important that the nominee be a republican for other reasons......like which party controls Congress, for instance?

In fact, I'd ask all of you who are supporting more or less grudgingly supporting Trump the same question. And I'm not asking it to make a point. I'm just curious to know — given the peculiar dynamics of this election cycle and the dysfunction of the republican party — how much of the support for Trump is enthusiastic, and how much is simply a vote against Clinton. But again, I'm not going to presume to suggest that y'alls picks are wrong.......just not necessarily the same as mine.

If the U.S. had a viable 3rd party that wins state and federal elections and I supported its platform and candidate, then I would consider voting for their candidate. I would do so only if that candidate had a reasonable chance of winning.

It is highly unlikely that a viable 3rd party will ever exist in the U.S. We have a far better chance of rebuilding the Republican Party than creating a viable 3rd Party. The establishment Republicans are running scared. McCain is in the fight of his political life and Ryan could be defeated.
Chas.

Many of us in a certain age group will probably be faced with accepting the idea that our cherished values are likely now shared by a shrinking, permanent minority.

You will not find candidates on ballots you can accept, who reflect your priorities, share your values, believe in many of your beliefs.

To me this election is about who will be nominating the Supreme Court Justices. Although I am not fond of either candidate I would rather that Trump make the selection rather than Clinton. A Clinton win has the possibility of making our 2nd Amendment rights a thing of the past, all it will take is one court challenge in front of a liberal stacked Supreme Court. The Supreme Court seems to be as political as the other branches of government.....

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Jim Beaux wrote:Instead of denigrating those of us who will no longer run with the herd & support an unprincipled candidate & a corrupt system, maybe you should consider the future for your children & grandchildren. If we lose our constitution it will not be because of a president, but a malignant system.

I will not look at my sons and tell them that everything I taught them was morally right, I went against.

I am thinking of my grandchildren when I do the best I can in a bad, no critical situation. You can teach your sons to "sit this one out" because you don't like the choices, but I'll tell mine to suit up and fight the best they can fight. Doing nothing is not an option.

Chas.

Just listening to Chris Cox saying the very same thing at the RNC.