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Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:15 pm
by Soccerdad1995
Good to see CBS doing the right thing here.
Yes, we have free speech. And yes, we should be held accountable for what we say, and do. These are not mutually exclusive concepts.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:23 pm
by SewTexas
A friend's daughter was working the stage for Jason Aldeen's concert. She's my daughter's age, she's physically ok..... My friend's post was the first I knew of it.
Such evil...
OK, y'all have mentioned slide-fire and bump-fire, what is that?
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:27 pm
by Pawpaw
SewTexas wrote:A friend's daughter was working the stage for Jason Aldeen's concert. She's my daughter's age, she's physically ok..... My friend's post was the first I knew of it.
Such evil...
OK, y'all have mentioned slide-fire and bump-fire, what is that?
Bump firing is a method of holding a firearm loosely so that the recoil allows the trigger to reset & then when your muscles bring the weapon forward, the trigger is tripped again.
The
Slide Fire is a stock that facilitates that action.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:29 pm
by Syntyr
SewTexas wrote:A friend's daughter was working the stage for Jason Aldeen's concert. She's my daughter's age, she's physically ok..... My friend's post was the first I knew of it.
Such evil...
OK, y'all have mentioned slide-fire and bump-fire, what is that?
Bump or slide fire is simulating full auto on a semi auto rifle by letting the rifle ride back due to recoil and you pushing it forward while holding your finger stationary. Or using a slide fire stock. See below.
https://youtu.be/x0f7OCnrrpk
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:35 pm
by troglodyte
Fox News Link
The guns found included converted, fully automatic AR-15 style assault rifles with high capacity magazines.
Not sure what "converted" means but an interview I saw made it sound like it was a true fully automatic conversion and not a bump-fire. Then again the talking heads may not have known what they were talking about. Caveat lector.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:08 pm
by RoyGBiv
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
Good to see CBS doing the right thing here.
Yes, we have free speech. And yes, we should be held accountable for what we say, and do. These are not mutually exclusive concepts.
That firing was about capitalism and the existential threat to CBS if they appeared to condone their own lawyers statement.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:39 pm
by Beiruty
The mass shooter was a multimillionaire capable of buying NFA FA items, or pay someone to convert them to FA.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:47 pm
by Liberty
Beiruty wrote:The mass shooter was a multimillionaire capable of buying NFA FA items, or pay someone to convert them to FA.
I doubt that he bought a legitimate NFA item. Too much of a paper trail, could have found an underground gunsmith though.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:03 pm
by philip964
Sure does not fit the background of a mass shooter.
His brother said he was a multimillionaire former accountant, turned real estate investor. Like to gamble was a high roller at the casino. So the room could have been comped.
What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.
They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.
This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:12 pm
by SewTexas
philip964 wrote:Sure does not fit the background of a mass shooter.
His brother said he was a multimillionaire former accountant, turned real estate investor. Like to gamble was a high roller at the casino. So the room could have been comped.
What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.
They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.
This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
complex, but interesting....
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:13 pm
by SewTexas
philip964 wrote:Sure does not fit the background of a mass shooter.
His brother said he was a multimillionaire former accountant, turned real estate investor. Like to gamble was a high roller at the casino. So the room could have been comped.
What if he was abducted by persons unknown, because he had the room they needed.
They set up the cameras so they knew exactly when to fake his suicide. Afterwards went into adjoining room and slipped out in first responders uniforms.
This took a lot of planning, a lot of time. This wasn't luck. Some of this guys friends would have noticed some change in him. Snapping to do this does not account for all the time and preparation.
complex, but interesting....
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:15 pm
by wheelgun1958
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:20 pm
by anygunanywhere
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:30 pm
by parabelum
Convert. My opinion. It only took FBI few hours to decisively say that there is no link to the terrorist group, this is the same FBI that all of these months later is still trying to make connection between Trump and Russia, you know, still can't definitively say one way or the other there, yet just a few hours after this event they are 100% sure that this is not in anyway shape or form related to IS.
Re: Las Vegas Mandalay Bay Active Shooter
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:35 pm
by Greybeard