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Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:22 pm
by locke_n_load
Charles L. Cotton wrote:TBJK wrote:Am I the only one bothered by admendment 12? Not that I intend on carrying extra mags but would like the option too without it being criminalized.
That amendment was tabled; it's not in HB910. Only one amendment was attached and it was a very good one, i.e. Shaefer's 18.
Chas.
Hey Charles, in layman's terms, what exactly does Shaefer's 18th amendment to 910 do exactly?
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:27 pm
by G.A. Heath
locke_n_load wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:TBJK wrote:Am I the only one bothered by admendment 12? Not that I intend on carrying extra mags but would like the option too without it being criminalized.
That amendment was tabled; it's not in HB910. Only one amendment was attached and it was a very good one, i.e. Shaefer's 18.
Chas.
Hey Charles, in layman's terms, what exactly does Shaefer's 18th amendment to 910 do exactly?
I'm not Charles, but with the weather around Houston he may be preoccupied at the moment but a link to the text of the amendment is here:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 10H218.HTM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Essentially this amendment reduces the penalty for a 30.06 violation to a Class C and a fine of $200, unless it can be proven that the Licensee was given notice after entering the property and failed to depart after receiving notice.
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:52 pm
by locke_n_load
G.A. Heath wrote:locke_n_load wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:TBJK wrote:Am I the only one bothered by admendment 12? Not that I intend on carrying extra mags but would like the option too without it being criminalized.
That amendment was tabled; it's not in HB910. Only one amendment was attached and it was a very good one, i.e. Shaefer's 18.
Chas.
Hey Charles, in layman's terms, what exactly does Shaefer's 18th amendment to 910 do exactly?
I'm not Charles, but with the weather around Houston he may be preoccupied at the moment but a link to the text of the amendment is here:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 10H218.HTM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Essentially this amendment reduces the penalty for a 30.06 violation to a Class C and a fine of $200, unless it can be proven that the Licensee was given notice after entering the property and failed to depart after receiving notice.
Well, here is what Charles said quite a few pages back:
If you see the sign and don't leave, then it would be a Class A.
Chas.
So the amendment only applies if you don't see the sign? Keep your eyes on your phone when walking in the door, and the most you can get stuck with is a class C (if you leave when asked)? Like I said, I think I understand the intent of the amendment: Walk past sign, class C. Walk past, get told to leave and stick around = class A. Makes sense, I just don't know if what is actually written in the amendment makes that clear enough.
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:31 pm
by Iunnrais
Or if instead of posting the sign at the front door, they post it in the back of the store at the customer service counter or on a side door, you only hit a class C by walking in instead of a Class A.
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:36 pm
by jmra
locke_n_load wrote:G.A. Heath wrote:locke_n_load wrote:Charles L. Cotton wrote:TBJK wrote:Am I the only one bothered by admendment 12? Not that I intend on carrying extra mags but would like the option too without it being criminalized.
That amendment was tabled; it's not in HB910. Only one amendment was attached and it was a very good one, i.e. Shaefer's 18.
Chas.
Hey Charles, in layman's terms, what exactly does Shaefer's 18th amendment to 910 do exactly?
I'm not Charles, but with the weather around Houston he may be preoccupied at the moment but a link to the text of the amendment is here:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 10H218.HTM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Essentially this amendment reduces the penalty for a 30.06 violation to a Class C and a fine of $200, unless it can be proven that the Licensee was given notice after entering the property and failed to depart after receiving notice.
Well, here is what Charles said quite a few pages back:
If you see the sign and don't leave, then it would be a Class A.
Chas.
So the amendment only applies if you don't see the sign? Keep your eyes on your phone when walking in the door, and the most you can get stuck with is a class C (if you leave when asked)? Like I said, I think I understand the intent of the amendment: Walk past sign, class C. Walk past, get told to leave and stick around = class A. Makes sense, I just don't know if what is actually written in the amendment makes that clear enough.
That is exactly how the author of the amendment described it. The purpose of the amendment is to keep someone who unintentionally walked past a 30.06 sign from being charged with a Class A.
In reality it has been extremely rare for someone to be charged to date. If this bill passes the only way you are going to be charged with a Class A is if you behave like the OCT crowd.
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:55 am
by K5GU
Here is an audio clip of Rep. Shaefer explaining the 30.06 amendment 18 to HB910. It's about 10 minutes.
http://analogthinker.com/hb910%20a18.mp3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:01 pm
by RHenriksen
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Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:21 pm
by Alex54
RHenriksen wrote:Video feed has started, gallery is empty. No action yet...
Is it the same link as Friday? It isn't working for me.
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:25 pm
by TVGuy
Alex54 wrote:RHenriksen wrote:Video feed has started, gallery is empty. No action yet...
Is it the same link as Friday? It isn't working for me.
http://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlaye ... nt_id=1415
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:36 pm
by Alex54
Thanks

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:37 pm
by oljames3
About to "go on calendar".
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:42 pm
by bigity
Congrats on whoever for their 'latest' 39th birthday?
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:58 pm
by joe817
Here we go! uggghhh! Moved to postpone until the end of the day because they are still working on the amendment!

Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:59 pm
by bigity
Delayed until end of the day I think?
Re: HB910 on House Calendar for 3rd Reading
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:59 pm
by RHenriksen
Phillips asked to move HB910 to the end of the day to accommodate work on amendments.
Hm.....? Trying to get a supermajority support for an improvement to the LOC bill?