Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:17 pm
Well some guy got his 15 minutes of fame, he burnt a Koran (Qur'an) at Ground Zero today in New York.
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Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
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Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:24 pm
Pot. Meet Kettle.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:34 pm
Sadly, flags are not the only thing they burned.snorri wrote:Pot. Meet Kettle.
A Christian church was burned by Islamic extremists in Pakistan who threatened to burn all of the country's Christian churches and one person died as a result of protests in another location.
Demonstrations against pastor, church set on fire in Pakistan
Reports from Pakistan say that Muslim extremists have attacked three churches in Narowal District, setting one on fire in Saidpur village. Extremist groups have also announced that they would burn all Christian churches in the country if Jones burnt the Qur‘an.
Pakistan’s .8 million Christians are under tremendous pressure, even though as soon as news about the Florida clergyman’s plans became public knowledge, Churches and Christian organisations firmly condemned the initiative. [...]
Protests have erupted around the Muslim world. One person died in Afghanistan when a crowd gathered in front of a NATO base to protest.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:36 am
Oh, yes. The religion of peace.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:01 am
What have they got against France?snorri wrote:Pot. Meet Kettle.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:04 am
Perhaps they don't care for delicious cheeses or fine wines?sjfcontrol wrote:What have they got against France?
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:22 am
France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.sjfcontrol wrote:What have they got against France?snorri wrote:Pot. Meet Kettle.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 am
Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:02 pm
I believe they banned all outward displays of religion including head scarves in all public buildings including schools. They have an attitude of being French in public and whatever religion you are at home in private.chartreuse wrote:Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:17 pm
I believe that you're right. TBH, it's an attitude that I have some empathy with.Hoi Polloi wrote:I believe they banned all outward displays of religion including head scarves in all public buildings including schools. They have an attitude of being French in public and whatever religion you are at home in private.chartreuse wrote:Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:18 pm
That sounds like a very reasonable stance to me. It's sorta' like "separation of church and state", isn't it? Maybe we should try it?Hoi Polloi wrote:I believe they banned all outward displays of religion including head scarves in all public buildings including schools. They have an attitude of being French in public and whatever religion you are at home in private.chartreuse wrote:Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:24 pm
We don't have a "separation of church and state clause." Here's what we've got:Oldgringo wrote:That sounds like a very reasonable stance to me. It's sorta' like "separation of church and state", isn't it? Maybe we should try it?Hoi Polloi wrote:I believe they banned all outward displays of religion including head scarves in all public buildings including schools. They have an attitude of being French in public and whatever religion you are at home in private.chartreuse wrote:Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:30 pm
In France separation of the church and the state is not really the case. France only prevents Christians from practicing their religion in public. Muslims are granted special status as a minority.
View below.
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France has lost its last war, and this one is its undoing.
Back on topic.
The Koran (Qur'an) burning guy got his wish, not US troops, but praying Christians instead. They try and pray in a field where their Christian church was shuttered by the government for not being, you guessed it - Muslim.
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View below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX-te0o7F0g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
France has lost its last war, and this one is its undoing.
Back on topic.
The Koran (Qur'an) burning guy got his wish, not US troops, but praying Christians instead. They try and pray in a field where their Christian church was shuttered by the government for not being, you guessed it - Muslim.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/12 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:33 pm
Thank you. I was thinkin' that the "...whatever religion you are at home in private" part of your post would be a swell, if somewhat novel, idea. IOW, we should all try minding our own business and stop trying to force our will/beliefs on others.Hoi Polloi wrote:We don't have a "separation of church and state clause." Here's what we've got:Oldgringo wrote:That sounds like a very reasonable stance to me. It's sorta' like "separation of church and state", isn't it? Maybe we should try it?Hoi Polloi wrote:I believe they banned all outward displays of religion including head scarves in all public buildings including schools. They have an attitude of being French in public and whatever religion you are at home in private.chartreuse wrote:Didn't France ban the Burqua, in public schools?Oldgringo wrote:France may have finally objected to France's ever-burgeoning muslim population shutting down the streets and towns for muslim prayer time? Check it out.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
Re: Top US commander: Burning Quran endangers troops
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:42 pm
Oldgringo wrote:Thank you. I was thinkin' that the "...whatever religion you are at home in private" part of your post would be a swell, if somewhat novel, idea. IOW, we should all try minding our own business and stop trying to force our will/beliefs on others.
That's always been my approach, and that of the folks I grew up with. Lately, though, I've been wondering whether it's precisely because I grew up in a country with an Established Church, that I and folks like me are more comfortable with taking a "low key" approach to professing our faith in public...