wally world incident

[wgoforth]

No, but I don't remember if it was the Smith and wesson Bodyguard .380 or the Sig P238 that did it thought.

As has been stated earlier, the security devices at stores are not metal detectors. Imagine how many belt buckles and such would upset the alarm?
As has also been said here, clothing is a likely culprit... check your clothes for live RFID tags. My wife was setting alrams off for a while. I finally took her purse apart and found an RFID tag buried in an inner zipper compartment.
And... some guns also have rfid tags/chips.
Honestly, if my gun had one I'd want to know, so I could remove it.

I realize that... however, left gun in car, went back through and nada. Went back with gun a week later and different clothes, same thing. I know they aren't metal detectors, but from some things I have read, it sounds as though if their sensitivity is set too low, metal could still set it off. And yes, if my gun has one, I for sure want to know it. I would think I would have found it in them already from cleaning, but who knows.

[Jumping Frog]

I realize that... however, left gun in car, went back through and nada. Went back with gun a week later and different clothes, same thing. I know they aren't metal detectors, but from some things I have read, it sounds as though if their sensitivity is set too low, metal could still set it off. And yes, if my gun has one, I for sure want to know it. I would think I would have found it in them already from cleaning, but who knows.

No, you don't understand how they work. A store uses an RFID reader, not a metal detector. You could roll through with a 5 gallon bucket filled with scrap steel and it would not set off the alarm. They key off RFID chips.

[SlowDave]

Isn't it possible that they have a sign on the way in that authorizes them to search any bag you have on you (that no one reads)? Would be kind of the equivalent to the membership thing at Costco I think.

As to the original poster, I have two thoughts:
1. With the difficulty of understanding what is going on, it is very risky to get involved in a hypothetical situation such as you described.
2. If you were to get involved, it would be extremely difficult to insure that you hit the right guy and not one of the security guards or any of the other people in the store standing "down range" of the target, what with potential ricochets off the floor and what have you. Extremely bad odds for getting involved, imho.

Appreciate the question. Don't let these guys scare you off. Also, didn't see it mentioned, but what with the lack of clarity of what's going on and all, wouldn't it be prudent to dial 911 and let them decide if they need to come out or not?

[speedsix]

...their posting such a sign doesn't give it force of law...nor does it mean you agreed to it...different from signing a membership agreement like Costco or Sam's...

[wgoforth]

Apparently this has been hashed before with the comment that not all store ARE using RFID sensors, and that some are using older EAS systems which metal can set off.
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[speedsix]

...I better start leaving my TEETH in the car...these modern electronics seem to me to be more about us serving them...than them serving us...

[wgoforth]

...I better start leaving my TEETH in the car...these modern electronics seem to me to be more about us serving them...than them serving us...

Big brother is watching you....

[johnson0317]

...I better start leaving my TEETH in the car...these modern electronics seem to me to be more about us serving them...than them serving us...

ummmm, TMI. Next thing you know, someone is going to ask if you wear incontinence diapers, and you will say...

..."Depends".

lol.

RJ

[wgoforth]

...I better start leaving my TEETH in the car...these modern electronics seem to me to be more about us serving them...than them serving us...

ummmm, TMI. Next thing you know, someone is going to ask if you wear incontinence diapers, and you will say...

..."Depends".

lol.

RJ

Heard a comedian the other day say "My 85 year old grandfather just married a 17 yo. She really pampers him...or huggies, whichever is on sale. They have a lot in common...they're both seniors."

[sugar land dave]

...As to the original poster, I have two thoughts:
1. With the difficulty of understanding what is going on, it is very risky to get involved in a hypothetical situation such as you described.
2. If you were to get involved, it would be extremely difficult to insure that you hit the right guy and not one of the security guards or any of the other people in the store standing "down range" of the target, what with potential ricochets off the floor and what have you. Extremely bad odds for getting involved, imho...

Didn't somebody already say that on page 1?

Once the three grabbed the alleged shoplifter, they owned the results. Good advice from others to keep a safe distance until you understand the situation and it is under control. BTW, with four writhing bodies would you be confident that you could safely execute a shot without hitting an unintended person?

http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=634172#p634172

[wgoforth]

...As to the original poster, I have two thoughts:
1. With the difficulty of understanding what is going on, it is very risky to get involved in a hypothetical situation such as you described.
2. If you were to get involved, it would be extremely difficult to insure that you hit the right guy and not one of the security guards or any of the other people in the store standing "down range" of the target, what with potential ricochets off the floor and what have you. Extremely bad odds for getting involved, imho...

Didn't somebody already say that on page 1?

Once the three grabbed the alleged shoplifter, they owned the results. Good advice from others to keep a safe distance until you understand the situation and it is under control. BTW, with four writhing bodies would you be confident that you could safely execute a shot without hitting an unintended person?

http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=634172#p634172

Well he already told you he was SLOW

[sugar land dave]

Aww, he's a good guy. He still came up with a good answer.....

[magillapd]

A few months ago I went to Walmart to buy a new trash can. It was 1 am, so it wasn't busy at all. Anyways, I put the trash can in the cart and walked to the only register open. The cashier just scaned the can and hit total. I paid cash, got my recepit and was heading out the door. From behing me I heard what I knew was coming..."Sir, I need to look in that garbage can before you leave" This was from the lady that was watching the door.

I said politely, no, you don't. She said that she had to look. Again, I said nope, you don't. I told her that she had every right to look inside that trash can up until I paid for it and ownership was transfered from Walmart to me. I said that the cashier had a chance to look but chose not to. At this point, the trash can was my property, and Walmart has no legal right to search my personal property. I showed her the receipt showing I paid for the trash can, but that she was not allowed to look inside it.

She was dumbfounded and started to say she'd call a manager. I said that would be a good idea and that after the manager got there maybe he could explain that to her, but that I was going home. I wished her a good night. She stormed off to who knows where.

[magillapd]

I realize that... however, left gun in car, went back through and nada. Went back with gun a week later and different clothes, same thing. I know they aren't metal detectors, but from some things I have read, it sounds as though if their sensitivity is set too low, metal could still set it off. And yes, if my gun has one, I for sure want to know it. I would think I would have found it in them already from cleaning, but who knows.

Do you have a Glock? If does anyone else with a sense of humor have access to your gun? In the back strap of a Glock is a hollow cavity, did someone stick an EAS tag up in there? That's the only thing I can think of. A gun will not set it off, it has to be an RF tag.

[03Lightningrocks]

That is funny. I have seen them open boxes at the register and look inside...LOL. I guess they have a problem with people opening boxes and stuffing them with items they don't intend to pay for. I usually don't have an issue showing my receipt as I leave. Never had the fortune of being frisked at the door. I would love to have watched the action on your move. I never stop when the theft alarms go off. Only been chased once and I told the guy he better go back inside the store or call a cop...LOL. He went back inside.