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Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:41 pm
by hi-power
Lots of Dems walked out, but the Contempt of Congress Resolution against Holder just passed:
Yea - 255
Nay - 67
Present - 1
Not Voting - 110
2 Republicans voted no.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:06 pm
by XinTX
Like to know who those two are.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:28 pm
by hi-power
Republican No Votes:
Rep. Stephen Latourette - Ohio
Rep. Scott Rigell - Virginia
Democrat Yes Votes:
Rep. Mike Ross - Arkansas
Rep. John Barrow - Georgia
Rep. Leonard Boswell - Iowa
Rep. Joe Donnelly - Indiana
Rep. Ben Chandler - Kentucky
Rep. Timothy Walz - Minnesota
Rep. Collin Peterson - Minnesota
Rep. Mike McIntyre - North Carolina
Rep. Larry Kissell - North Carolina
Rep. William Owens - New York
Rep. Kathleen Hochul - New York
Rep. Dan Boren - Oklahoma
Rep. Jason Altmire - Pennsylvania
Rep. Mark Critz - Pennsylvania
Rep. Jim Matheson - Utah
Rep. Ronald Kind - Wisconsin
Rep. Nick Rahall - West Virginia
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:40 pm
by mojo84
hi-power wrote:Lots of Dems walked out, but the Contempt of Congress Resolution against Holder just passed:
Yea - 255
Nay - 67
Present - 1
Not Voting - 110
2 Republicans voted no.
... and 21 or so dems vote Yea.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:48 pm
by VMI77
hi-power wrote:Lots of Dems walked out, but the Contempt of Congress Resolution against Holder just passed:
Yea - 255
Nay - 67
Present - 1
Not Voting - 110
2 Republicans voted no.
Now, why would they walk out, and not just vote no? Could it be they don't want a no vote on the record?
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:56 pm
by The Annoyed Man
VMI77 wrote:hi-power wrote:Lots of Dems walked out, but the Contempt of Congress Resolution against Holder just passed:
Yea - 255
Nay - 67
Present - 1
Not Voting - 110
2 Republicans voted no.
Now, why would they walk out, and not just vote no? Could it be they don't want a no vote on the record?
Could be, but more likely it's that whenever the political going gets tough, the democrats leave town (Texas redistricting, Minnesota right-to-work bill). They take their toys and go home and don't want to play anymore. Children.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:18 pm
by AEA
Every Dem that walked out needs to be defeated in their next election. This is the list. Get 'er done!
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:36 pm
by sjfcontrol
Why limit it to the ones that walked out?
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:46 pm
by Dave2
XinTX wrote:Like to know who those two are.
Steven LaTourette (R) - Ohio, District 14
Scott Rigell (R) - Virginia, District 2
and one that didn't vote:
Jerry Lewis (R) - California, District 41
Source
Now, there were two votes... one for Contempt of Congress (this one with the two republicans voting against), and one for something to do with
Civil Contempt of Congress (dunno the difference... I think the civil kind allows congress to get uncivilized on someone). In
that vote, no republicans voted no, but four didn't vote at all:
Jeff Fortenberry (R) - Nebraska, District 1
Andy Harris (R) - Maryland, District 1
Vicky Hartzler (R) - Missouri, District 4
Jerry Lewis (R) - California, District 41
Source
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:50 pm
by hi-power
Shocker!
Justice Department shields Holder from prosecution after contempt vote
Deputy Attorney General James Cole confirmed in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner that the department in fact would not pursue prosecution. The attorney general's withholding of documents pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, he wrote, "does not constitute a crime."
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:07 pm
by hi-power
Here's an interesting article on DOJ's stance on executive privilege asserted by the White House in the Fast & Furious debacle compared to DOJ's stance on Texas' deliberative process privilege in the upcoming Texas Voter ID Law case scheduled to start July 9th, 2012.
Link
It’s clear, when one compares the Justice Department’s position on executive and deliberate process privilege in the Texas voter ID litigation with its position on the privilege in the congressional investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, that neither Eric Holder nor Barack Obama want the same rules applied to them that they would apply to the governor of Texas and members of the state legislature. They don’t believe there are any privileges that should apply to shield the state’s documents, and if there are, they should be “abrogated” by a court because of the “extraordinary” importance of upholding the requirements of the Voting Rights Act.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:57 pm
by Dave2
Did anyone else see Geraldo Rivera on the O'Reilly Factor with Laura Ingraham tonight? Wow... I'm not even sure how I'd describe that...
In any case, my opinion of him is much lower now.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:07 am
by sjfcontrol
Dave2 wrote:Did anyone else see Geraldo Rivera on the O'Reilly Factor with Laura Ingraham tonight? Wow... I'm not even sure how I'd describe that...
In any case, my opinion of him is much lower now.
For those of us who didn't, what happened?
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:17 am
by chasfm11
sjfcontrol wrote:Dave2 wrote:Did anyone else see Geraldo Rivera on the O'Reilly Factor with Laura Ingraham tonight? Wow... I'm not even sure how I'd describe that...
In any case, my opinion of him is much lower now.
For those of us who didn't, what happened?
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/i ... t_id=86923
Geraldo said "gun walking is done all the time" among many stupid things. "This investigation is all political hackery"
Laura accused him of grandstanding. It is quite an exchange.
Re: ‘Fast and Furious’ Does Not Mean 'Fast and Furious'.....
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:23 am
by The Annoyed Man
"The Mustache" is anything but a conservative, and he just doesn't know much about guns except that they make "The Mustache" look even more macho if he carries one in Afghannyland where all macho men with mustaches have guns. I ceased being impressed with that blister a long time ago.