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jmra wrote:Looks like people are ready to give up more rights as a result of the bombings. From Fox News -
"They can give me a cavity search right now and I'd be perfectly happy," said Daniel Wood, a video producer from New York City who was waiting for a train.

oh my gosh there are SO many one-line responses I want to type right now but ALL of them are unfit for 9-year-old readers

only thing that could make the set up more perfect is if this guy was in San Francisco (hope that doesn't go too far itself - if so, my apologies and please remove this line)

AndyC wrote:"Those who would give up an essential liberty in return for temporary safety...." etc, etc.

... deserve a cavity search

george wrote:The smartest thing they did was kill all cell phone transmissions immediately after the initial blasts.

But they didn't...

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/cellu ... d-not-shut

The AP's initial report came from an anonymous law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing that supposedly outlined the service shutdown. The FCC later told ABC News it was not aware of any cellular shutdowns, and the news outlet confirmed the same with Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. (T-Mobile had a similar message for VentureBeat.)

VMI77 wrote:

george wrote:The smartest thing they did was kill all cell phone transmissions immediately after the initial blasts.

But they didn't...

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/cellu ... d-not-shut

The AP's initial report came from an anonymous law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing that supposedly outlined the service shutdown. The FCC later told ABC News it was not aware of any cellular shutdowns, and the news outlet confirmed the same with Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. (T-Mobile had a similar message for VentureBeat.)

I know one carrier did not shut down, but was monitoring from the git-go for congestion and tuning the network to make sure capacity was available as needed.

NBC reporting that they were pressure cooker bombs filled with a low-velocity explosive with additional metal items to increase shrapnel.

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anygunanywhere wrote:

jmra wrote:Looks like people are ready to give up more rights as a result of the bombings. From Fox News -
"They can give me a cavity search right now and I'd be perfectly happy," said Daniel Wood, a video producer from New York City who was waiting for a train.

Let it be known right now that he is speaking totally and emphatically for himself.

Anygunanywhere

agreed
that could get out of hand really fast

step up no waiting i have a free hand (voice of TSA)


just read pressure cookers were the holding device or at least speculated...and that a two bomb sweeps were done at the finish line, the last only an hr before the blast. I bet the video coming in has us a suspect by thursday late.

VMI77 wrote:

george wrote:The smartest thing they did was kill all cell phone transmissions immediately after the initial blasts.

But they didn't...

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/cellu ... d-not-shut

The AP's initial report came from an anonymous law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing that supposedly outlined the service shutdown. The FCC later told ABC News it was not aware of any cellular shutdowns, and the news outlet confirmed the same with Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. (T-Mobile had a similar message for VentureBeat.)

Yeah, I was kind of wondering who shut it down, and how. In all of my years in the telecomm industry, the only thing that has ever accomplished a shutdown like that is a flood of traffic and that even happened back in the wireline days.

The IBM official term for it is Network Constipation. I was monitoring a network node that we had been having issues with when the message "Switch due to Network Constipation" came up on the screen. I was perplexed until I confirmed with our IBM rep that the term was indeed used, and I know it accurately described the condition.

jimlongley wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

george wrote:The smartest thing they did was kill all cell phone transmissions immediately after the initial blasts.

But they didn't...

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/cellu ... d-not-shut

The AP's initial report came from an anonymous law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing that supposedly outlined the service shutdown. The FCC later told ABC News it was not aware of any cellular shutdowns, and the news outlet confirmed the same with Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. (T-Mobile had a similar message for VentureBeat.)

Yeah, I was kind of wondering who shut it down, and how. In all of my years in the telecomm industry, the only thing that has ever accomplished a shutdown like that is a flood of traffic and that even happened back in the wireline days.

The IBM official term for it is Network Constipation. I was monitoring a network node that we had been having issues with when the message "Switch due to Network Constipation" came up on the screen. I was perplexed until I confirmed with our IBM rep that the term was indeed used, and I know it accurately described the condition.

Someone must have had a sense of humor, because the real term is Network 'Congestion'. There are methods to do mass shutdowns, but those would be a rare case and would require a super high level officer in the company to direct it. The only way a lower level manger would direct it is to enable a block of traffic in one part of a network that is flooding the rest; kind of like putting up a dam.

Its very hard to not jump to some kind of conclusion too early. A lot of times your conclusion is biased reached. I'm wanting it to not be a white guy who is a CHL from Texas and who thinks the current administration is over reaching their authority. The guys on MSNBC want it desperately for it to be that exact guy.

So naturally I jumped all over the Saudi "not a person of interest". I want it to not be that guy from Texas.

We will have to wait.

The pressure cooker thing supposedly is Afgan. But today with the internet, it could just as easily have been a pimply faced 17 year old who is really smart, a loner, lives in Boston and gets picked on at school and hates everyone.

I remember my first trip to London in 2000. There were no public trash cans anywhere. There was no where at all to throw paper waste. In one little spot on the underground platform there would be like 50 empty paper cups sitting there. Interesting nothing at the Olympics in London, but here at the Boston Marathon. Was it the upgraded security? Or was it because it is homegrown?

Very sophisticated to have planted the bombs after the dogs swept for explosives. I didn't even realize that except for presidential visits, that dogs swept for bombs at events. To me too sophisticated for a 17 year old, but is that my bias creeping out.

Keith B wrote:

jimlongley wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

george wrote:The smartest thing they did was kill all cell phone transmissions immediately after the initial blasts.

But they didn't...

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/16/cellu ... d-not-shut

The AP's initial report came from an anonymous law enforcement official, citing an intelligence briefing that supposedly outlined the service shutdown. The FCC later told ABC News it was not aware of any cellular shutdowns, and the news outlet confirmed the same with Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon. (T-Mobile had a similar message for VentureBeat.)

Yeah, I was kind of wondering who shut it down, and how. In all of my years in the telecomm industry, the only thing that has ever accomplished a shutdown like that is a flood of traffic and that even happened back in the wireline days.

The IBM official term for it is Network Constipation. I was monitoring a network node that we had been having issues with when the message "Switch due to Network Constipation" came up on the screen. I was perplexed until I confirmed with our IBM rep that the term was indeed used, and I know it accurately described the condition.

Someone must have had a sense of humor, because the real term is Network 'Congestion'. There are methods to do mass shutdowns, but those would be a rare case and would require a super high level officer in the company to direct it. The only way a lower level manger would direct it is to enable a block of traffic in one part of a network that is flooding the rest; kind of like putting up a dam.

Maybe they had a sense of humor, but it was not network congestion, which just slowed the throughput, and constipation was, in the 90s, a legitimate term used by IBM.

Yes, it would require MOPs and contingency plans and such things, although the actual execution would be nothing more than a couple of keystrokes.

Tonight at a restaurant they had a TV on CNN. The banner across the bottom was saying the explosive probably "was gunpowder". We all know what the government will try to do if that becomes the actual determination.

2farnorth wrote:Tonight at a restaurant they had a TV on CNN. The banner across the bottom was saying the explosive probably "was gunpowder". We all know what the government will try to do if that becomes actual determination.

Things could get interesting for all you reloaders.

I'm having trouble making sense of this. If your goal is to hurt as many people as possible, why put the explosives in a pressure cooker? Why put that inside a trash can? Wouldn't both containers lessen the impact of the explosion?