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SF18C wrote:I had to look it too!

Me three!!!

I was reading over HB 972 and noticed that the effective date changed from 9/1/2013 to 1/1/2014, but none of the admenments addressed a change in dates. How does that happen?

Here's an update:
HB 47 Relating to a handgun proficiency course that is taken to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013 (I have no idea what this means)
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 864 05/04/2013

HB 48 Relating to the procedure under which a person may renew a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013

HB 485 Relating to the amount of the fee paid by certain peace officers and veterans of the United States armed forces for a license to carry a concealed handgun; authorizing a fee.
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#549 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Point of order sustained (amendment) 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 4-Anderson 05/04/2013
H Amendment adopted as amended 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amendment amended 3-Gonzales 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#548 05/04/2013
H Motion to table fails 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 508 Relating to certain offenses relating to carrying concealed handguns on property owned or leased by a governmental entity; providing a civil penalty.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Flynn 05/04/2013

HB 698 Relating to certain procedures for submitting legible and classifiable fingerprints with an application for a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Springer 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 801 Relating to the discharge of a firearm across the property line of a school.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 972 Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the premises of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 8-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Statement of Leg. Intent Recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amended 7-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amendment fails of adoption 6-Canales 05/04/2013
H Amended 5-Kleinschmidt 05/04/2013
H Amended 4-Lavender 05/04/2013
H Amended 3-Eiland 05/04/2013
H Amended 2-P. King 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Schaefer 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1009 Relating to the creation of a new category of law enforcement officer who shall be designated a school marshal, the training and appointment of certain employees of a school district or open-enrollment charter school as school marshals, and the rights, restrictions, limitations, and responsibilities of school marshals; authorizing the imposition of a fee.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1304 Relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 299 05/04/2013

HB 1349 Relating to information that may be requested by the Department of Public Safety from a person applying for or renewing a concealed handgun license.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1421 Relating to the disposition of certain seized weapons.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

baldeagle wrote:Here's an update:
HB 47 Relating to a handgun proficiency course that is taken to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013 (I have no idea what this means)
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 864 05/04/2013

HB 48 Relating to the procedure under which a person may renew a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013

HB 485 Relating to the amount of the fee paid by certain peace officers and veterans of the United States armed forces for a license to carry a concealed handgun; authorizing a fee.
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#549 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Point of order sustained (amendment) 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 4-Anderson 05/04/2013
H Amendment adopted as amended 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amendment amended 3-Gonzales 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#548 05/04/2013
H Motion to table fails 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 508 Relating to certain offenses relating to carrying concealed handguns on property owned or leased by a governmental entity; providing a civil penalty.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Flynn 05/04/2013

HB 698 Relating to certain procedures for submitting legible and classifiable fingerprints with an application for a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Springer 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 801 Relating to the discharge of a firearm across the property line of a school.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 972 Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the premises of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 8-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Statement of Leg. Intent Recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amended 7-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amendment fails of adoption 6-Canales 05/04/2013
H Amended 5-Kleinschmidt 05/04/2013
H Amended 4-Lavender 05/04/2013
H Amended 3-Eiland 05/04/2013
H Amended 2-P. King 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Schaefer 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1009 Relating to the creation of a new category of law enforcement officer who shall be designated a school marshal, the training and appointment of certain employees of a school district or open-enrollment charter school as school marshals, and the rights, restrictions, limitations, and responsibilities of school marshals; authorizing the imposition of a fee.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1304 Relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 299 05/04/2013

HB 1349 Relating to information that may be requested by the Department of Public Safety from a person applying for or renewing a concealed handgun license.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

HB 1421 Relating to the disposition of certain seized weapons.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013

Could somebody please put this in English for all of us non-lawyers?

Thanks for the update but what passed?

polekitty wrote:I was reading over HB 972 and noticed that the effective date changed from 9/1/2013 to 1/1/2014, but none of the admenments addressed a change in dates. How does that happen?

The date was changed in the committee substitute.

nightmare69 wrote:Thanks for the update but what passed?

Everything that says "engrossed" passed.

lrpettit wrote:Could somebody please put this in English for all of us non-lawyers?

Seriously? HB 47 and HB 1304 were laid on the table and the Senate version was considered. All the rest passed the House. HB 485 passed on a recorded vote. All others passed by affirmation. They still have to go to the Senate and pass to become law.

I would rather they pass meaningful bills like 3218 or a non-gelded campus carry. A few hours of class time is insignificant compared to not being able to carry many of the places we most need to carry. If the best we get is class reduction and "opt out" rubbish, then the best the legislators should get is a B- grade. Maybe C+

tbrown wrote:I would rather they pass meaningful bills like 3218 or a non-gelded campus carry. A few hours of class time is insignificant compared to not being able to carry many of the places we most need to carry. If the best we get is class reduction and "opt out" rubbish, then the best the legislators should get is a B- grade. Maybe C+

Care to explain why 972 is rubbish? It's the same bill that we almost passed in 2011. It de-criminalizes carry on university property and prohibits public universities from establishing any rules to restrict concealed carry. Private universities can adopt rules against carry, but only after consulting with students, law enforcement, faculty, etc. and such rules must be renewed every year. This is a huge step forward. Sure, we're all disappointed at the lack of progress on 700 and 3218, but that's no reason to dismiss 972.

TrueFlog wrote:

tbrown wrote:I would rather they pass meaningful bills like 3218 or a non-gelded campus carry. A few hours of class time is insignificant compared to not being able to carry many of the places we most need to carry. If the best we get is class reduction and "opt out" rubbish, then the best the legislators should get is a B- grade. Maybe C+

Care to explain why 972 is rubbish? It's the same bill that we almost passed in 2011. It de-criminalizes carry on university property and prohibits public universities from establishing any rules to restrict concealed carry. Private universities can adopt rules against carry, but only after consulting with students, law enforcement, faculty, etc. and such rules must be renewed every year. This is a huge step forward. Sure, we're all disappointed at the lack of progress on 700 and 3218, but that's no reason to dismiss 972.

Prior to the vote on 972 I specifically heard the question asked and answered that ANY university president, after consultation with students, faculty, etc., could "opt out." The example given was individual campuses of the University of Texas which is a public university. Anyone else hear what I heard?

G26ster wrote:

TrueFlog wrote:

tbrown wrote:I would rather they pass meaningful bills like 3218 or a non-gelded campus carry. A few hours of class time is insignificant compared to not being able to carry many of the places we most need to carry. If the best we get is class reduction and "opt out" rubbish, then the best the legislators should get is a B- grade. Maybe C+

Care to explain why 972 is rubbish? It's the same bill that we almost passed in 2011. It de-criminalizes carry on university property and prohibits public universities from establishing any rules to restrict concealed carry. Private universities can adopt rules against carry, but only after consulting with students, law enforcement, faculty, etc. and such rules must be renewed every year. This is a huge step forward. Sure, we're all disappointed at the lack of progress on 700 and 3218, but that's no reason to dismiss 972.

Prior to the vote on 972 I specifically heard the question asked and answered that ANY university president, after consultation with students, faculty, etc., could "opt out." The example given was individual campuses of the University of Texas which is a public university. Anyone else hear what I heard?

Yes, this is exactly what has been passed. I heard the same dialog. I was hoping opt-out will be removed by an amendment. Maybe the senate will have the balls to do it.

Anybody heard anything about SB 299? I know it made it to the house but i lost track of it after that.

TrueFlog wrote:

tbrown wrote:I would rather they pass meaningful bills like 3218 or a non-gelded campus carry. A few hours of class time is insignificant compared to not being able to carry many of the places we most need to carry. If the best we get is class reduction and "opt out" rubbish, then the best the legislators should get is a B- grade. Maybe C+

Care to explain why 972 is rubbish? It's the same bill that we almost passed in 2011. It de-criminalizes carry on university property and prohibits public universities from establishing any rules to restrict concealed carry. Private universities can adopt rules against carry, but only after consulting with students, law enforcement, faculty, etc. and such rules must be renewed every year. This is a huge step forward. Sure, we're all disappointed at the lack of progress on 700 and 3218, but that's no reason to dismiss 972.

972 lets every university, public and private, opt out. Also, it does not decriminalize, only reduces the severity of carrying on a posted campus

It's time to start calling your state senators.
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