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Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:03 am
by 03Lightningrocks
tbrown wrote:If I was invited to the party, I think that counts as "effective consent" in most cases. However, if there was any doubt in my mind, I would skip the party and go somewhere I'm welcome.
Even with all the back and forth, I think I am going to cast my vote for this post as the best all around answer so far. Short, sweet...and straight to the point.

Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:39 am
by drjoker
Jihans wrote:With a lot of holiday parties upcoming, I wanted to throw a topic up for discussion.
First, when invited to a friend/neighbor/relative's house for a holiday gathering.... do you carry? Do you ask the host their feeling on it first? I'm not talking alcohol consumption or anything like that. Just the general principal. Part two of the question... you are invited to a friend/neighbor/relative's house for a holiday gathering. You know from previous discussions with them that they are against guns. Even though they have not said anything to you about carrying do you?
Carry your smallest pistol so you won't be outed. Concealed is concealed.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 am
by HKMike
Jihans wrote:A lot of these posts deal in absolutes when there are some gray areas. For example, if I know a relative doesn't like guns I won't carry in their house. Even though they didn't say anything verbally, my knowing their position strikes me as getting notice..... I know not legally.... But I think morally I have to respect that when I go to their house. Or I can chose not to go of course. I'm sure others think differently but I think this can be a gray area. As much as I think anti gun people should respect my right to carry I think I should also consider their feelings when entering their house.
Yep. Lots of gray, but we should respect the those that may not feel comfortable with guns in there own home. We may wish everyone were carry friendly, but that just isn't how the world works.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:50 am
by jmra
HKMike wrote:Jihans wrote:A lot of these posts deal in absolutes when there are some gray areas. For example, if I know a relative doesn't like guns I won't carry in their house. Even though they didn't say anything verbally, my knowing their position strikes me as getting notice..... I know not legally.... But I think morally I have to respect that when I go to their house. Or I can chose not to go of course. I'm sure others think differently but I think this can be a gray area. As much as I think anti gun people should respect my right to carry I think I should also consider their feelings when entering their house.
Yep. Lots of gray, but we should respect the those that may not feel comfortable with guns in there own home. We may wish everyone were carry friendly, but that just isn't how the world works.

I'm very gun friendly but I know some people who have their CHL that I would not want carrying in my home. It's bad enough thinking about them carrying anywhere.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:23 am
by ffemt300
Yes I carry. No I dont ask for permission. I also dont care if theyre against guns or not. I carry anyway. The only one that needs to know if I'm carrying is me. Concealed is concealed.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:49 am
by txglock21
Short and sweet answer: Just as a public business, etc.... I carry or I don't go in.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:04 am
by The Marshal
Heheh, at the Christmas Party, my buddy gave me a good ol' Hug & Backslap, but his arm dragged across my pistol.
I got "The Look", but nothing was said.

Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:32 pm
by Tic Tac
jmra wrote: I'm very gun friendly but I know some people who have their CHL that I would not want carrying in my home.
Sure. My solution is don't invite those kind of people into my home. I don't have the time or the inclination to make my home child-proof or idiot-proof so I don't invite either to my parties.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:30 pm
by Oldgringo
I did not carry in/to the Christmas party we attended Saturday night. I did carry to/during the Christmas Cantata at the FUMC on Sunday. Does that count? There wasn't any drinkin' during the Cantata service.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:08 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I carried to the Christmas open house at my neighbor's house on Saturday. No big deal.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:21 pm
by texanjoker
The question of the day is, has anybody open carried their AR or AK to a Christmas party?

Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:24 pm
by Ameer
texanjoker wrote:The question of the day is, has anybody open carried their AR or AK to a Christmas party?

It sounds like you haven't been invited to the right parties.
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:27 pm
by jmra
Ameer wrote:texanjoker wrote:The question of the day is, has anybody open carried their AR or AK to a Christmas party?

It sounds like you haven't been invited to the right parties.
At least not to right wing parties.

Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:49 pm
by Jihans
I just don't buy all the "absolute" posts... No gray or other options. Concealed is concealed. If I can't Carry I don't go. Unless they post a sign or specifically tell me I carry whether they like it or not.
Let me throw out this hypothetical. Your mom hates guns. Always has. As a kid you weren't even allowed to have a cap gun. Now, mom's having Christmas dinner. Do you carry? No, she's not going to tell you not to.....she feels she shouldn't have to, you know how she feels and she's mom. No 30.06 sign posted. Sure, concealed is concealed...she would never know.... But you would know you disrespected your mom.
So, for all the black and white absolutes out there. If you can't carry you don't go............ to moms on Christmas? Is mom's house really like a business...... If she doesn't post her house you carry even if you know it would break her heart if she found out? If mom doesn't know because concealed is concealed.... it is OK? We can choose our friends but not our relatives...or boss. So substitute Aunt Big Butt or your boss Mr. Hardnose for mom in the situation above. We all get invited to holiday parties that we have to go to for one reason or another. Is it still so black and white? Does my right to carry trump my respect for mom?
Re: Carry at holiday parties
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:00 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
Jihans wrote:Concealed is concealed. If I can't Carry I don't go. Unless they post a sign or specifically tell me I carry whether they like it or not
That right there is it in a nut shell. All the rest is gobble de gook that matters not. My mom or boss nor anyone else knows what color underwear I have on either. I don't care what color they prefer. Your mom knows about everything you do? I bet not. Unless she does, the rest is simply bloviating.