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Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:11 pm
by Ânthony
TVGuy wrote:He would probably be wearing a CHL badge.
Seems more likely to be wearing this.
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Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:43 pm
by pancho
suthdj wrote:9mmboy wrote:rbwhatever1 wrote:Sad situation. We have many cowards walking the streets of America doing what they do best. Absolutely nothing. It's shameful that cowards outnumber real men. These cowards are just as bad as the criminal in our Society. Yes. Just as bad and maybe worse. Heartless, mindless, soulless, cowardly beings walking among us pretending to be human.
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Why cowards???? Some people just mind their own business and dont want to get involved because they have families at home that they would like to get to. Now if anybody decides to act, their chances of getting back home just dropped. Think of all the legal trouble you can get into. Im no coward, but I have kids to live for.
so when your wife and kids are being assaulted in a Walmart parking lot and nobody helps them how will that make you feel.
I don't care how it makes him feel. I don't care how it makes you feel. Your feelings are your problem.
The persecution of George Zimmerman was a turning point for me. I know that was in another state but I can't take that kind of risk for some stranger. Especially if one of the parties looks like an Obama family member.
I'm not going to get involved unless I have no other choice.
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:59 pm
by Oldgringo
OTOH, and in other places, there is
this.
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:11 pm
by rbwhatever1
Good ending to a violent attack Oldgringo. Its always good to read about men confronting evil and stopping it.
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:15 am
by VMI77
Oldgringo wrote:OTOH, and in other places, there is
this.
But OTOH, there's the case of the off-duty cop working store security who almost got shot by a CHL holder because the woman he was attempting to detain was yelling rape. And I remember a case a long time back where a cop in plainclothes was atop a woman yelling rape, but she was actually stabbing the cop, and a security guard, mistaking the situation, shot and killed the cop. What trouble might these guys be in if the woman yelling rape wasn't the victim?
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:23 am
by mojo84
Shooting someone isn't always the first action that should be taken. Fights and assaults have been broken up for centuries without going to the gun and shooting someone.
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:16 am
by KD5NRH
Oldgringo wrote:OTOH, and in other places, there is
this.
That really needs video of the guy with the football using it to knock the assailant down. Power and accuracy like that should make him a fairly early draft pick.
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:58 pm
by 9mmboy
mojo84 wrote:A person can intervene and help stop the ongoing assault without automatically starting to shoot. You can "what if" any situation you want. The goal should be to stop the assault and let the cops sort things out and determine who's who.
Common sense and judicious use of force and deadly force is recommended.
Too many people trying to play robo-cop. A lot of CHL holders think the plastic puts them at the same level as LEO's. WRONG! Unless you or a loved one is being harmed, STAY OUT OF IT. Joe Horn was lucky, you might not be
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:01 pm
by 9mmboy
mojo84 wrote:A person can intervene and help stop the ongoing assault without automatically starting to shoot. You can "what if" any situation you want. The goal should be to stop the assault and let the cops sort things out and determine who's who.
Common sense and judicious use of force and deadly force is recommended.
Too many people trying to play robo-cop. A lot of CHL holders think the plastic puts them at the same level as LEO's. WRONG! Unless you or a loved one is being harmed, STAY OUT OF IT. Joe Horn was lucky, you might not be
Re: Furious! Elderly FW woman attacked at WM
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:07 pm
by mojo84
9mmboy wrote:mojo84 wrote:A person can intervene and help stop the ongoing assault without automatically starting to shoot. You can "what if" any situation you want. The goal should be to stop the assault and let the cops sort things out and determine who's who.
Common sense and judicious use of force and deadly force is recommended.
Too many people trying to play robo-cop. A lot of CHL holders think the plastic puts them at the same level as LEO's. WRONG! Unless you or a loved one is being harmed, STAY OUT OF IT. Joe Horn was lucky, you might not be
Helping someone in need has nothing to do with a CHL or being RoboCop.
Tell me this, your grandmother is being attacked by a much younger heavy woman and you have no issue with a 275 pound guy doing nothing to help her and you have not problem with that?
What if some guy grabbed your daughter on the playground and starts dragging her toward a van while everyone just watches. You OK with that?
There have been millions that have helped others and there were no negative ramifications.