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Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:21 pm
by Dave2
Bladed wrote:As I said, the fact that a work is reproduced for the purpose of criticism CAN be enough to qualify the reproduction as "fair use," particularly if--as in this case--the use is noncommercial, and the original work is not artistic or commercial in nature.
How does that apply, since it's being used to slander and mischaracterize us, rather than to criticize us?

Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:33 am
by Bladed
Dave2 wrote:
Bladed wrote:As I said, the fact that a work is reproduced for the purpose of criticism CAN be enough to qualify the reproduction as "fair use," particularly if--as in this case--the use is noncommercial, and the original work is not artistic or commercial in nature.
How does that apply, since it's being used to slander and mischaracterize us, rather than to criticize us?
I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a judge to rule that the group being criticized gets to decide the validity of the criticism.

Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:48 pm
by Bladed
This Facebook meme in which Moms Demand Action compares a 30.06 sign to a miniature horse will make you laugh: https://www.facebook.com/MomsDemandActi ... 3410973722" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This news report in which a DFW CBS affiliate repeatedly confuses 30.06 signs and "The unlicensed possession of a firearm" signs will piss you off: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/video/11014259- ... ns-change/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:18 pm
by VoiceofReason
We need a facebook page where we can list the lies told by the antigun people and post the truth.

If people realize that those people constantly lie and most of the time the media reports are wrong maybe they will quit taking them seriously.

Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:48 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
VoiceofReason wrote:We need a facebook page where we can list the lies told by the antigun people and post the truth.

If people realize that those people constantly lie and most of the time the media reports are wrong maybe they will quit taking them seriously.
I own BradyCampaignLies.com but I never set up a website. I like your idea, but I don't want to put it on Facebook in case Z decides he wants to delete it or some posts, so I just registered AntiGunLies.com. I can set up a website, but I don't have time to keep it updated. If some folks will volunteer, I'll get it going. It will have to stay clean so it will be viewed as a reliable resource to debunk the garbage that any anti-gun group or person publishes. I want links to corroborating proof of anything we say. Again, this will not be an editorial page, nor will it be a place for rants. I want it to be an honest version of Snopes.

Chas.

Re: The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence Attacks 30.06 Law

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:26 pm
by Bladed
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
VoiceofReason wrote:We need a facebook page where we can list the lies told by the antigun people and post the truth.

If people realize that those people constantly lie and most of the time the media reports are wrong maybe they will quit taking them seriously.
I own BradyCampaignLies.com but I never set up a website. I like your idea, but I don't want to put it on Facebook in case Z decides he wants to delete it or some posts, so I just registered AntiGunLies.com. I can set up a website, but I don't have time to keep it updated. If some folks will volunteer, I'll get it going. It will have to stay clean so it will be viewed as a reliable resource to debunk the garbage that any anti-gun group or person publishes. I want links to corroborating proof of anything we say. Again, this will not be an editorial page, nor will it be a place for rants. I want it to be an honest version of Snopes.

Chas.
Great idea!