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Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 1:48 pm
by safety1
v7a wrote:
CJD wrote:There should be no need for all the maneuvering, Repub. majority in both chambers!
They're R humans, not robots. Humans like to take credit for things (which is why R Senators want House to pass SB17, while R Reps want Senate to pass HB910).
I hope you are right, for the love of God....please pass one of them!

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:32 pm
by TresHuevos
safety1 wrote:
v7a wrote:
CJD wrote:There should be no need for all the maneuvering, Repub. majority in both chambers!
They're R humans, not robots. Humans like to take credit for things (which is why R Senators want House to pass SB17, while R Reps want Senate to pass HB910).
I hope you are right, for the love of God....please pass one of them!
If they can't get these passed I hereby pledge to become a card carrying Libertarian. It's ridiculous that this is even an issue. :waiting:

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:52 am
by Dave2
TresHuevos wrote:
safety1 wrote:
v7a wrote:
CJD wrote:There should be no need for all the maneuvering, Repub. majority in both chambers!
They're R humans, not robots. Humans like to take credit for things (which is why R Senators want House to pass SB17, while R Reps want Senate to pass HB910).
I hope you are right, for the love of God....please pass one of them!
If they can't get these passed I hereby pledge to become a card carrying Libertarian. It's ridiculous that this is even an issue. :waiting:
That might not be a bad attitude to take in general... Not letting a bill come to a vote just because your name/branch isn't on it is almost the definition of juvenile.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:45 am
by canvasbck
With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:19 pm
by CJD
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:26 pm
by nightmare69
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.
I've always supported the Liberian party vs the same old R and D. Even though I have religious beliefs that go against certain things (abortion, gay marriage) I understand that not everyone shares my beliefs and therefor should be able to decide what is best for themselves and their own situation. As long as it does not interfere with me directly or my pursuit of happiness then frankly it's none of my business. Off topic I know.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:34 pm
by mojo84
nightmare69 wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.
I've always supported the Liberian party vs the same old R and D. Even though I have religious beliefs that go against certain things (abortion, gay marriage) I understand that not everyone shares my beliefs and therefor should be able to decide what is best for themselves and their own situation. As long as it does not interfere with me directly or my pursuit of happiness then frankly it's none of my business. Off topic I know.

A little humor, The Libertarian Police Department

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-sh ... department" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:08 pm
by CJD
mojo84 wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.
I've always supported the Liberian party vs the same old R and D. Even though I have religious beliefs that go against certain things (abortion, gay marriage) I understand that not everyone shares my beliefs and therefor should be able to decide what is best for themselves and their own situation. As long as it does not interfere with me directly or my pursuit of happiness then frankly it's none of my business. Off topic I know.

A little humor, The Libertarian Police Department

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-sh ... department" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:lol:

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:52 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:. . . it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian. . . . What's not to like?
Pretty much everything. Libertarians love to promote only two or three of the Libertarian Party's Platform planks like gun rights and smaller government. The vast majority of its Platform is either dangerously naive or outright crazy.

https://www.lp.org/platform" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chas.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 7:37 pm
by CJD
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:. . . it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian. . . . What's not to like?
Pretty much everything. Libertarians love to promote only two or three of the Libertarian Party's Platform planks like gun rights and smaller government. The vast majority of its Platform is either dangerously naive or outright crazy.

https://www.lp.org/platform" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chas.
May I ask which points in particular you don't like?

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:57 pm
by CoffeeNut
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.
:iagree:

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 3:51 am
by MadMonkey
nightmare69 wrote:I've always supported the Liberian party vs the same old R and D.
Make no mistake... I'd guess that the majority of us who are libertarians are NOT, in any way, shape, or form, affiliated with the Libertarian Party. It's unfortunate that we share a name.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:43 am
by C-dub
mojo84 wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:With the chronic shenanigans in DC and Austin, it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian.
It's less the shenanigans of the other parties, and more the ideals, that make libertarianism great. A small government, which minds it's own business, and is not in the business of banning things. Allows people to decide what is best for themselves, as long as they do not harm others. What's not to like? I believe the only reason everyone ISN'T libertarian is because they have personal beliefs that they think everyone else should HAVE to follow. Ideas so good they should be mandatory. Nobody likes to mind their own business.
I've always supported the Liberian party vs the same old R and D. Even though I have religious beliefs that go against certain things (abortion, gay marriage) I understand that not everyone shares my beliefs and therefor should be able to decide what is best for themselves and their own situation. As long as it does not interfere with me directly or my pursuit of happiness then frankly it's none of my business. Off topic I know.

A little humor, The Libertarian Police Department

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-sh ... department" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kinda :lol:

but more
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Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:53 am
by TXBO
CJD wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:. . . it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian. . . . What's not to like?
Pretty much everything. Libertarians love to promote only two or three of the Libertarian Party's Platform planks like gun rights and smaller government. The vast majority of its Platform is either dangerously naive or outright crazy.

https://www.lp.org/platform" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chas.
May I ask which points in particular you don't like?
There's plenty. One example is their platform of "Economic Liberty". It's not only an idealistic impossibility, it's downright dangerous to capitalism.

Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:59 am
by CJD
TXBO wrote:
CJD wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
CJD wrote:
canvasbck wrote:. . . it's hard to NOT be a card carrying Libertarian. . . . What's not to like?
Pretty much everything. Libertarians love to promote only two or three of the Libertarian Party's Platform planks like gun rights and smaller government. The vast majority of its Platform is either dangerously naive or outright crazy.

https://www.lp.org/platform" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chas.
May I ask which points in particular you don't like?
There's plenty. One example is their platform of "Economic Liberty". It's not only an idealistic impossibility, it's downright dangerous to capitalism.
I guess I don't see that.