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Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:07 am
by Abraham
At what point does the daily fining begin?

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:20 pm
by NotRPB
Drama Anticipation

Will the daycare income offset the $10,500.00 per day fine?
Will kids under the age of two still be Free?


Adults (13+) $12
Children (3-12) $9
Toddlers (2 & under) Free

Seniors (65+) $9
Parking (per vehicle) $5
Admission is half-price every Wednesday


How many bathrooms must a daycare have for the number of children enrolled?
Minimum Standards for Child-Care Centers -
https://www.google.com/search?q=Texas+d ... 8&oe=utf-8


Seems that if my infant two year old is there, I can visit Free now ... right?
https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/documents/ ... enters.pdf
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7)
Ensuring parents have the opportunity to visit the child-care center any time during the child-care center’s hours of operation to observe their child, program activities, the building, the grounds, and the equipment without having to secure prior approval
§746.305 What other situations require notification to Licensing?
Subchapter B, Administration and Communication
Division 2, Required Notifications
December 2012
(a)
You must notify us as soon a
s possible, but no later than two days after:
(1)
Any occurrence that renders all or part of your center unsafe or unsanitary for
a child;
I saw animal poop there ->>>>
§746.503
Must I provide parents with a copy of my operational policies?
Subchapter B, Administration and Communication
Division 4, Operational Policies
September 2003

Yes. Parents must sign a child-care enrollment agreement or other similar document
that includes at least the operational policies listed in this division on or
before the date of admission. You must keep this signed document in the child’
s record or at least one for each family, if siblings are enrolled at the same time

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:28 pm
by rtschl
Will the daycare income offset the $10,500.00 per day fine?
But I don't think the Zoo is the entity that will have to pay the fine. It will be the City of Fort Worth.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:30 pm
by NotRPB
rtschl wrote:
Will the daycare income offset the $10,500.00 per day fine?
But I don't think the Zoo is the entity that will have to pay the fine. It will be the City of Fort Worth.
good point :thumbs2:

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:37 pm
by rtschl
NotRPB,

Loving your finds on daycare regualtions. "rlol"

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:35 pm
by sugar land dave
rtschl wrote:
Will the daycare income offset the $10,500.00 per day fine?
But I don't think the Zoo is the entity that will have to pay the fine. It will be the City of Fort Worth.
No problem. For just a tad over $3.8 million a year in fines, the city of Fort Worth may resist SB273 and the state legislative intent.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:38 pm
by AJSully421
I wonder if their three signs are a single offense, or a "per sign" compounding factor.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:47 pm
by SewTexas
Hey NotRPB,

read about the ratios, the number of staff to children! that's where they should be hit, because there is no way they can meet that on an average weekend and the staff ratios go up when there are babies around.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:43 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
AJSully421 wrote:I wonder if their three signs are a single offense, or a "per sign" compounding factor.
The fines are per sign, per day.

Chas.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:47 am
by Scott Farkus
Maybe I missed it but what are the "advantages" to the Zoo to claim it's a daycare? To my knowledge, daycares aren't statutorily off-limits for licensed carry so how does this impact the validity of a 30.06 sign?

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:58 am
by sjfcontrol
Scott Farkus wrote:Maybe I missed it but what are the "advantages" to the Zoo to claim it's a daycare? To my knowledge, daycares aren't statutorily off-limits for licensed carry so how does this impact the validity of a 30.06 sign?
They are not off-limits to CHL carry, however, the social-service agency that regulates them may have some rules regarding the presence of firearms in the facility. This could result in the problem where they cannot prohibit licensed carry (due to being on government property), yet could lose their daycare license (if they actually have one) if they DON'T prevent it. Ultimately, that seems to me to be a problem for THEM, not a problem for the CHL.

I'm making some assumptions here, as I am not familiar with daycare licensing laws. And of course am not a lawyer.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:01 am
by rtschl
I'm cross posting this, but I received an email just a few minutes ago that my complaint has been forwarded for review.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:55 am
by treadlightly
I'd still like to know what the State thinks of a daycare keeping a live king cobra in a trophy case.

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:29 pm
by SewTexas
treadlightly wrote:I'd still like to know what the State thinks of a daycare keeping a live king cobra in a trophy case.

hmmm, good point....and a lion for that matter....

Re: Fort Worth Zoo Daycare

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:39 pm
by oljames3
SewTexas wrote:
treadlightly wrote:I'd still like to know what the State thinks of a daycare keeping a live king cobra in a trophy case.

hmmm, good point....and a lion for that matter....
And tigers and bears? Sorry, could not resist. :lol::