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Oldgringo wrote:Just reading through this thread, et al, reinforces my glee with having lived this long. I feel kinda' sorry for the young folk who have not much for which to look forward.

What do you mean Oldgringo? They have PokemonGo and the new Iphone 7S which I am sure will be coming out any day now....

sugar land dave wrote:What do you mean Oldgringo? They have PokemonGo and the new Iphone 7S which I am sure will be coming out any day now....

Exactly!

TexasJohnBoy wrote:See that 12%? Looks an awful lot like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... tion,_1992

Wikipedia wrote:Perot siphoned votes nearly equally among Bush and Clinton

I believe a recent poll shows the same thing regarding Johnson, although I don't have a link handy.

If Hillary wins, it's unlikely to be due to people voting for Johnson. It will be because the GOP nominated the most unfavorable candidate in recent history who then proceeded to self-sabotage pretty much every single day after he secured the nomination.

TexasJohnBoy wrote:There will be no third party candidate elected in the next 2 decades.

That because the people who are either democrat or republican more out of habit than actual conviction keep getting told not to consider it.

SewTexas wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

SewTexas wrote:Y'all do realize there is a 3rd party that is pro-gun....right? And Johnson is gaining ground.

Yeah, but I have too many other conflicts with Johnson. Plus, he has much less of a chance than Trump.

I'm not sure what they could be. He's actually more conservative than The Donald in many areas. ....and they are now talking about allowing him into the debates, so his polling numbers are going up.

Here is some food for thought.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

One thing that I've noticed about Trump and his media coverage during the campaign is that he was almost a media darling during the primaries. I couldn't find a news channel that wasn't airing a Trump speech. Even with all of his media rivalries, he seemed to be the media darling. He owned it. Since the convention I haven't seen a televised Trump speech, the media is roasting him over every thing that he tweets and dissecting things that he has said, but they are not putting him on TV (except for maybe Bill O'Rielly). The MSM has turned quickly on him since he officially received the nomination. I think it may have caught him off-guard. I hope that he responds well this week.

allisji wrote:One thing that I've noticed about Trump and his media coverage during the campaign is that he was almost a media darling during the primaries. I couldn't find a news channel that wasn't airing a Trump speech. Even with all of his media rivalries, he seemed to be the media darling. He owned it. Since the convention I haven't seen a televised Trump speech, the media is roasting him over every thing that he tweets and dissecting things that he has said, but they are not putting him on TV (except for maybe Bill O'Rielly). The MSM has turned quickly on him since he officially received the nomination. I think it may have caught him off-guard. I hope that he responds well this week.

You're right. They wanted him to be the candidate. That does not equate to them wanting him to be the president.

It's just like how we heard plenty of stories of 'crossover' Democrat voters voting for him in the Republican primaries. They, too, wanted Trump as the candidate that their candidate would run against.

This ain't Trump-bashing, it's just stating events as I see them. When we have the left's support for our candidate in the primary (as we did with crossovers and the media), that should worry all of us in the general.

allisji,
It seems like and ambush to me. It's apparent they wanted a Trump vs Hillary race.

mojo84 wrote:allisji,
It seems like and ambush to me. It's apparent they wanted a Trump vs Hillary race.

Yes, the mainstream media selects the two candidates and selects the one to win. They do this by being who they are. Running favorable stories on who they want. Negative stories on who they dislike.

This week has been an hurricane of stories negative to Trump. Most seem to swirl around this gold star father. Khan. I'm not sure what Trump has done, but you would think that Trump had personally ignored his son's request for more security and then failed to send aid to get his son out of a deadly attack overseas and instead lied about it afterwards in a major coverup.

Even the VFW all of a sudden is attacking Trump. I was surprised the NRA hadn't decided to support Hillary this week as everyone seemed to be jumping ship.

I'm remembering names.

WTR wrote:

parabelum wrote:Because George Staphylococcus "forgot" to mention this:


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-president ... -scandals/

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-president ... migration/

AS I said, your sources are suspect at best.

For your own sake, I encourage you to read and familiarize yourself with certain names, as well as the references to "Islamic State" etc. made as far back as the early 80's.

Their son was an American hero. That does not give his parents who are borderline Islamic extremist according to my own findings, the right to exploit their son's death to further the cause of the very thing their son fought and died for.

" In 1983, for example, Khan wrote a glowing review of a book compiled from a seminar held in Kuwait called “Human Rights In Islam” in which he singles out for praise the keynote address of fellow Pakistani Allah K. Brohi, a pro-jihad Islamic jurist who was one of the closest advisers to late Pakistani dictator Gen. Zia ul-Haq, the father of the Taliban movement.
Khan speaks admiringly of Brohi’s interpretation of human rights, even though it included the right to kill and mutilate those who violate Islamic laws and even the right of men to “beat” wives who act “unseemly.”"


http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... on-sharia/

His review:


https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/ ... ghts-Islam


The document is linked below (hint, check pg.44 forward, "key note speech" by Allah K. Brohi, "...a pro-jihad Islamic jurist who was one of the closest advisers to late Pakistani dictator Gen. Zia ul-Haq, the father of the Taliban movement.").
I know it's a very long read, but since you will not accept the research of Walid Shoebat, you are free to read for yourself.


http://icj.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-c ... 80-eng.pdf


Lastly, many thanks to Walid Shoebot who worked tirelessly to warn the fools (many many references there...).

http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-the- ... ed-states/


Why do I even bother posting this?
Well, it bothers me that so many fall for the media's attempt to brainwash the masses, and smear Trump relentlessly.

Mr. Khan opened his big fat mouth, and he has actually harmed his "cause" severely (which is great news for us), because now we the thinking Americans know little more about him.

A disgrace to his son who died protecting this Nation.

mojo84 wrote:It seems like and ambush to me. It's apparent they wanted a Trump vs Hillary race.

An ambush that many people could see coming. People who opposed Trump in the primary repeatedly warned that the media was deliberately treating Trump with kid gloves and that this would change after the nomination. It was also clear that Trump would not be able to raise anywhere near as much money as Clinton. This was all dismissed by Trump supporters because "he's a media genius who's not running a traditional campaign". Well, we'll see who's the genius on Nov 9th.

As for the Khan controversy, Trump (and his supporters) simply don't know when to stop digging. From the latest Fox News poll:

This is just part of his plan to win bigly. All you conservative toads are just too brainwashed by the Establishment to recognize his brilliance. After he cleaned all the other 16 candidates' clocks in the Primary with an overwhelming plurality (38%), he moved to the final stage.

He is now wiping the mat with Hillary and stooges like Khan. He will now educate you all on his easy path to victory. Polls that show otherwise are rigged or manipulated by the Establishment and others who fail to acknowledge the Orange One's eminent talent and experience.

Lastest pole shows Clinton ahead by 15 points. Trump has done a horrible job campaigning since the convention. He has to get a filter on his mouth, the bully tactic is bleeding away his support.

Perhaps he has to be wise with his $$$ since he is not taking big corporations money