wally world incident

[wgoforth]

I realize that... however, left gun in car, went back through and nada. Went back with gun a week later and different clothes, same thing. I know they aren't metal detectors, but from some things I have read, it sounds as though if their sensitivity is set too low, metal could still set it off. And yes, if my gun has one, I for sure want to know it. I would think I would have found it in them already from cleaning, but who knows.

Do you have a Glock? If does anyone else with a sense of humor have access to your gun? In the back strap of a Glock is a hollow cavity, did someone stick an EAS tag up in there? That's the only thing I can think of. A gun will not set it off, it has to be an RF tag.

Nope, I don't like tupperware... I think folks are making assumptions here that ALL sensors ARE RFID sensors... Apparently this has been hashed before with the comment that not all stores ARE using RFID sensors, and that some are still using older EAS systems which metal can set off. In fact, the kind of strip that is pictured on the web as EAS looks like what was used.
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[wgoforth]

EAS strips...here are the NON-RFID strips that many stores use rather than the newer, more expensive RFID.

[drjoker]

tommyg, my question to you is, " How do you know that the Walmart gestapo is in the right and the alleged shoplifter was in the wrong?" What if the shopper was NOT shoplifting but brought something from home to try to match an item that the shopper wanted to buy at Walmart? The security staff thought that the shopper was shoplifting, physically pulled on the shopper to get his/her attention and direct him to the security office for questioning? What if the shopper interpreted that physical pulling as an attack and pushed the security staff? The security staff then interpreted that as an attack and started fighting the shopper? You get the picture.

Don't get involved unless you are 100% sure that you are correct. In other words, unless you can stake your LIFE on it, don't get involved. I would only get involved if I was there from the beginning so that I know my assessment of the situation is correct.

[tommyg]

I don't understand why people on this forum keep
acting as though I got involved in the incident I stayed out
of it I did Not get involved in any way. I think the man was really
shoplifting, but who knows for surePeople on this forum keep
acting as though I got involved I was not involved I stayed to the
side at enough distance to stay out of it

Amen

[03Lightningrocks]

I don't understand why people on this forum keep
acting as though I got involved in the incident
I stayed out of it I did Not get involved in any way.
I think the man was really shoplifting, but who knows for sure
People on this forum keep acting as though I got involved I was not
involved I stayed to the side at enough distance to stay out of it

Amen

I think you are making an asumption that is not warranted. YOU ask a what if question and so all the responses are what if answers. The posts are all simply saying what they recommend you do or don't do. Nobody said you got involved.

[wgoforth]

I don't understand why people on this forum keep
acting as though I got involved in the incident
I stayed out of it I did Not get involved in any way.
I think the man was really shoplifting, but who knows for sure
People on this forum keep acting as though I got involved I was not
involved I stayed to the side at enough distance to stay out of it

Amen

Hey Tommy! Don't take these things as personal. There are 2 things going on here (1) Many who respond haven't bothered reading all of the prior comments made, and they are just writing directly to your OP. (2) Most of the things that have been discussed on here have just broadened out to more general application. Don't take those kinds of posts as personal as they aren't intended that way, I haven't seen anyone personally accuse you of having done that. When I get those kinds of advice, I look at them and if they fit, I apply them. If they don't, then I can intelligently ignore them. I'm glad you posted so we would have springboards to bounce these ideas from.

[tommyg]

03Lightningrocks: you are right it is all Hypothetical

[03Lightningrocks]

03Lightningrocks: you are right it is all Hypothetical

The answers are also hypothetical. You were more than clear in your original post that you did not get involved. Everyone is simply giving their opinions on the topic. I don't think anyone is making accusations.

[tommyg]

I suspect that big %% of security Guards, shop lifter catchers,etc
are people that have washed out of LEO school and are still want to be cops.
I remember one of them yelling that he was a peace officer and it was the
same thing as a Police Oficer.