Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:44 pm
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Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:47 am
I saw that. Pretty wild. Dr. Pais work[ed] at Pax River... one of the places you would expect advanced aerospace technologies to be developed.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am
I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 am
I also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs. Or a lure to trap spies.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 am
That is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.philip964 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 amI also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:25 am
I had not considered that.Paladin wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 amThat is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.philip964 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 amI also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:52 am
During the Cold War the CIA made sure to leak all the dead end "Star Wars" technology... so the Soviets would waste resources following up on all the dead ends... while concealing what did work.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:25 amI had not considered that.Paladin wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 amThat is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.philip964 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 amI also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.
I don't know that that's the case here, but its fascinating reading
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:49 pm
I have a hint on how you can tell they are lying. They mention the patent includes a combined underwater and aerospace craft. They cannot possibly be patenting that. I watched the flying sub leave the Seaview on TV in the mid 60's, so we must have already had that technology. After all, if we did not, it means Hollywood lied to us and I just cannot believe that.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:22 pm
When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:25 amI had not considered that.Paladin wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 amThat is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.philip964 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 amI also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:39 pm
Ditto from a sailor,ELB wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:22 pmWhen I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:25 amI had not considered that.Paladin wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:22 amThat is a very likely scenario, a strategy that has been used before.philip964 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 amI also thought that as well.WildBill wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 am I find this very strange. A patent has to disclose detailed information on the invention.
it seems that it would be a better strategy to keep this information classified
rather than filing a patent, which becomes public information.
It also could be a counter intelligence move to have our enemies waste resources on dead end streets. It could also be a way to scare our enemies into thinking our capabilities are so much more advanced than theirs.
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:12 pm
As a cop, I always said the best disguise for robbing a bank was a police uniform. Walk in in uniform, stand in line properly, make polite chit-chat with the others in line, when it is your turn at the teller, rob them. No fuss no noise.powerboatr wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:39 pmDitto from a sailor,ELB wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:22 pm When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.
People will see the uniform and never see the person wearing it.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:51 pm
**Especially** during these current times...wearing a mask...easy peasy...not that I want a retirement plan in the gray bar hotel...srothstein wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:12 pmAs a cop, I always said the best disguise for robbing a bank was a police uniform. Walk in in uniform, stand in line properly, make polite chit-chat with the others in line, when it is your turn at the teller, rob them. No fuss no noise.powerboatr wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:39 pmDitto from a sailor,ELB wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:22 pm When I was in the USAF I always thought that if someone put me in charge of keeping all the secret stuff at Nellis/Area 51/Dreamland secret, I would have a little fabrication shop that would build "interesting" looking aircraft/UFO-looking things, and "accidently" leave them parked on the ramp an hour before sunrise, occasionally leave the hanger door open, have them trucked on flatbed through nearby town and the tarp"accidently" blows off. Also turn a few of them into drones dressed up with some lights and let them be seen along the perimeters where the UFOlogists hang out. When people are looking for something they believe is there, they will keep looking until they find something. So give them something to look at.
it amazes me what people think they see with just a little prompting. but them again at how little they pay attention to something that just stands there looking at them in plain sight, no fanfare or anything.
People will see the uniform and never see the person wearing it.
Re: Navy UFO Patents
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:59 pm
This reminds me of the Air Force (?) HARP Project, been awhile since I read about that but seems to me it was more costly than the value of the results?