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Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:51 pm
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-ag-commi ... 42730.html
How’s that normally work, arrested and charged, license suspended, or only after convicted?
From the reporting, sounds like Jan 6 for the Capitol police was like a whole tour in Viet Nam during the Tet offensive in one day.
Looks like someone is waving the American flag in the photo, oh the horror. The terrible destructive fires that were set, the vandalism, the looting, all that American history destroyed.
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:17 pm
by RottenApple
philip964 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:51 pm
https://news.yahoo.com/florida-ag-commi ... 42730.html
How’s that normally work, arrested and charged, license suspended, or only after convicted?
From the reporting, sounds like Jan 6 for the Capitol police was like a whole tour in Viet Nam during the Tet offensive in one day.
Looks like someone is waving the American flag in the photo, oh the horror. The terrible destructive fires that were set, the vandalism, the looting, all that American history destroyed.
The same thing happens in Texas. See Sec. 411.187. SUSPENSION OF LICENSE:
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Sec. 411.187. SUSPENSION OF LICENSE.
(a) The department shall suspend a license under this section if the license holder:
(1) is charged with the commission of a Class A or Class B misdemeanor or equivalent offense, or of an offense under Section 42.01, Penal Code, or equivalent offense, or of a felony under an information or indictment;
(2) fails to notify the department of a change of address, name, or status as required by Section 411.181;
(3) commits an act of family violence and is the subject of an active protective order rendered under Title 4, Family Code; or
(4) is arrested for an offense involving family violence or an offense under Section 42.072, Penal Code, and is the subject of an order for emergency protection issued under Article 17.292, Code of Criminal Procedure.
(b) If a peace officer believes a reason listed in Subsection (a) to suspend a license exists, the officer shall prepare an affidavit on a form provided by the department stating the reason for the suspension of the license and giving the department all of the information available to the officer at the time of the preparation of the form. The officer shall attach the officer's reports relating to the license holder to the form and send the form and the attachments to the appropriate division of the department at its Austin headquarters not later than the fifth working day after the date the form is prepared. The officer shall send a copy of the form and the attachments to the license holder. If the license holder has not surrendered the license or the license was not seized as evidence, the license holder shall surrender the license to the appropriate division of the department not later than the 10th day after the date the license holder receives the notice of suspension from the department unless the license holder requests a hearing from the department. The license holder may request that the justice court in the justice court precinct in which the license holder resides review the suspension as provided by Section 411.180. If a request is made for the justice court to review the suspension and hold a hearing, the license holder shall surrender the license on the date an order of suspension is entered by the justice court.
(c) The department shall suspend a license under this section:
(1) for 30 days, if the person's license is subject to suspension for a reason listed in Subsection (a)(2), (3), or (4), except as provided by Subdivision (2);
(2) for not less than one year and not more than three years, if the person's license:
(A) is subject to suspension for a reason listed in Subsection (a), other than the reason listed in Subsection (a)(1); and
(B) has been previously suspended for the same reason;
(3) until dismissal of the charges, if the person's license is subject to suspension for the reason listed in Subsection (a)(1); or
(4) for the duration of or the period specified by:
(A) the protective order issued under Title 4, Family Code, if the person's license is subject to suspension for the reason listed in Subsection (a)(5); or (B) the order for emergency protection issued under Article 17.292, Code of Criminal Procedure, if the person's license is subject to suspension for the reason listed in Subsection (a)(6).
Added by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 10.01(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1997. Amended by Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 62, Sec. 9.10(a), eff. Sept. 1, 1999; Acts 1999, 76th Leg., ch. 1412, Sec. 6, eff. Sept. 1, 1999.
Amended by:
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 316 (H.B. 598), Sec. 7, eff. September 1, 2009.
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1146 (H.B. 2730), Sec. 11.12, eff. September 1, 2009.
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1146 (H.B. 2730), Sec. 12A.01, eff. September 1, 2009.
Acts 2013, 83rd Leg., R.S., Ch. 1302 (H.B. 3142), Sec. 7, eff. June 14, 2013.
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:43 pm
by philip964
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:44 pm
by Scott Farkus
I think she's the sole Democrat among Florida's statewide officeholders. Yeah, she's running for governor.
I don't know how it works in Florida but is the Ag Commissioner responsible for CHL permits? That seems odd.
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:43 pm
by Soccerdad1995
My first question is why is the Agriculture Commissioner in charge of concealed carry licenses? Seems like an odd agency to handle that.
Assuming this is an executive agency, can DeSantis overrule her?
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:55 pm
by anygunanywhere
Back when I had my Florida permit the State guy's name was Charles Bronson.
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:28 pm
by JustSomeOldGuy
Florida Department of Agriculture
and Consumer Services.

Guess that's what you get when 'Florida Man' organizes gov't dept. responsibilities.....

Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:58 am
by crazy2medic
So in Florida you get punished before your convicted? FLORIDUH!
Re: Florida Ag Commissioner suspends 22 CHL permits for arrested penetrators.
Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:39 pm
by AndyC1911
JustSomeOldGuy wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:28 pm
Florida Department of Agriculture
and Consumer Services.

Guess that's what you get when 'Florida Man' organizes gov't dept. responsibilities.....
