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US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:30 am
by Excaliber
The US Department of Commerce is demanding records of holster sales from manufacturers. The data demanded includes where they were delivered. Details
here.
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:27 am
by parabelum
Pretty sure they are violating several of their own statues on privacy with this one. But who cares, right? Everything is upside down.
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:12 pm
by powerboatr
no law mandating these companies comply correct?
so we all should go buy 40 holsters to skew the data
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm
by srothstein
Someone is making things up to scare people. The actual survey is available and you can see the questions at the census bureau web site. It asks each company to list where they shipped things to by city (with no addresses provided), how it was shipped, and the material shipped by a very generic term. The example for the description of what was shipped was "Mechanical Machinery". If I were shipping holsters, I could use the term "leather goods" and be completely legit. The only time it is more specific is if you shipped hazardous material. Then it wants to know the material by the hazmat code and asks for some information on the packaging.
Oh yeah, if you shipped more than 40 shipments, you only need to send in a sample of them, not all of them. And it is only for a short time period, not every shipment made ever. In addition, it is a sample of companies, not every company everywhere. There is no way this is building up any registry of anything.
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:42 pm
by E10
powerboatr wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:12 pmso we all should go buy 40 holsters to skew the data
I’m already there. After all my experiments with IWB, OWB, leather vs kydex, black vs brown, etc., etc., I’ve got far more holsters than guns.
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:17 am
by powerboatr
srothstein wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:24 pm
Someone is making things up to scare people. The actual survey is available and you can see the questions at the census bureau web site. It asks each company to list where they shipped things to by city (with no addresses provided), how it was shipped, and the material shipped by a very generic term. The example for the description of what was shipped was "Mechanical Machinery". If I were shipping holsters, I could use the term "leather goods" and be completely legit. The only time it is more specific is if you shipped hazardous material. Then it wants to know the material by the hazmat code and asks for some information on the packaging.
Oh yeah, if you shipped more than 40 shipments, you only need to send in a sample of them, not all of them. And it is only for a short time period, not every shipment made ever. In addition, it is a sample of companies, not every company everywhere. There is no way this is building up any registry of anything.
that makes more sense, but why are they looking for this data? are they truly trying to solve the logistics issues of the last 3 years?
Re: US Dept of Commerce Demanding Holster Sales Records
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:12 am
by Keith B
E10 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:42 pm
powerboatr wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:12 pmso we all should go buy 40 holsters to skew the data
I’m already there. After all my experiments with IWB, OWB, leather vs kydex, black vs brown, etc., etc., I’ve got far more holsters than guns.
Yeah, if they count my holsters, the media really WILL think I truly have an arsenal.
For my carry guns I probably have 6 or 7 holsters to 1 gun.
