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California approves micro stamping
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:24 am
by age_ranger
I can't believe this was allowed to happen. Yet another reason to avoid California!
http://bradycampaign.org/media/release.php?release=933
Re: California approves micro stamping
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:27 am
by Keith B
Next, they will outlaw files and dremel tools so you can't grind them off. Sheesh!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:39 am
by AEA
What a bunch of idiots!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:59 am
by frankie_the_yankee
The interesting thing will be the response from gun manufacturers.
Will they, or some of them, simply pull out of the CA market?
Will they start building "49 state guns" and "CA guns"?
Or will they implement microstamping on all of their guns to maintain a single production process flow?
I think that companies that decide to serve the CA market by implementing microstamping will see some backlash from gun owners in other states, similar to what happened to S&W when they signed the consent decree (surrendering to Clinton's lawsuit) back in the 90's. I suspect this will happen even if they offer non-microstamped guns to other states.
I would favor a boycott of any company that went along with CA on this.
I would like to see what they do when their LE agencies are unable to buy guns.
But in a spirit of compromise, I think I could agree with having all LE guns microstamped while the gun companies simply don't sell to the non-LEO market.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:29 am
by dutysublime
I suppose that we'd be open to a new identity fraud if we don't carefully police our brass at the range. How patient would LE be with you if your casings are at some crime scene? This is bad!
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:59 am
by mcub
It also points out my favorite problem with gun control, it’s always a defective compromise.
It would be more effective, from both sides of the court room to make manufactures create a distinguishable rifle pattern. Such design is actually easy with the CNC tools of today and it places the bullet from the body to a gun, not a case that may or may not have fired the fatal shot.
I don’t like the ideal at all, but I disapprove of following a half way solution.
Consider, a gang banger could simply bring shells from multiple guns and just toss them on the ground and they did their drive by.
I object not only because the concept is defective, but the approach is also the worst way to try the concept.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:50 pm
by G.C.Montgomery
frankie_the_yankee wrote:The interesting thing will be the response from gun manufacturers.
Will they, or some of them, simply pull out of the CA market?
Will they start building "49 state guns" and "CA guns"?
To some extent, these things have already occurred. Any manufacturer who wants to sell a gun in California has to submit a sample of each specific model for destructive testing. Many manufacturers offer "California Compliant" versions of their firearms. Most major manufactures also include reduced capacity, 10-round magazine with guns sold in states that have banned full capacity magazines and the also will include a fired case in states that require it.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:00 pm
by mr surveyor
try buying Kel-Tec pistols in CA.... then look at the offerings from Skyy. Guess who is opting for the CA market.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:28 pm
by Jungle Work
Just so, so typically Kalifornicastanian.
Jungle Work
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:36 pm
by KBCraig
Off topic, but he signed a number of bills, including this:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58130
BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
Schwarzenegger signs law outlawing terms perceived as negative to 'gays'
Posted: October 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who with his signature also ordered public schools to allow boys to use girls restrooms and locker rooms, and vice versa, if they choose.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:43 pm
by jimlongley
According to the article, they are going to "microstamp" the make, model, and serial number "on the firing pin and (other parts)"
I would surely love to see the make, model, and serial number engraved on a firing pin.
What a boondoggle, what a maroon, what sheer idiocy.
Only in commiefornia. (I Hope)
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:25 pm
by cbr600
I wonder if this law applies to revolvers too.
California is indeed the Granola State, chock full of nuts and flakes.
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:36 pm
by Liberty
cbr600 wrote:I wonder if this law applies to revolvers too.
California is indeed the Granola State, chock full of nuts and flakes.
Fruits you forgot the fruits .. What is granola without the fruits
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:30 pm
by mcub
moved per request
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:36 pm
by cbr600
mcub wrote:Washington D.C. - The first of a number of state laws passed in recent years forcing employers to allow workers to bring guns onto business property was thrown out late last week by a Federal district court judge.
We already have two threads on that. No need to hijack this one.
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... hp?t=10643
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... hp?t=10720