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First LEO contact

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:31 pm
by One Shot
Pulled over on 90A between Shiner and Gonzales at 2 AM this morning. Took the kids to Shiner to their first drive-in-- turned out to be my first LEO stop. I was doing 75 in a 65 (thought it was a 70 zone, as I failed to see the "65 at night" sign). Presented by DL and CHL as wife found the insurance info in the glove box. The officer asked if I was armed and where. I told him in my front waistband and he told me to put it in the center console. I lifted my shirt and pulled pistol and holster (Bianchi 6D IWB) off my belt and dropped it in the console. The officer returned to his vehicle, and when he came back asked me to step out. He asked if I always carry (most times), what I carry (Glock 10mm), and why I carry in my front waistband, as he had not seen this before. I explained my reasoning, which seemed to make sense to him. Not sure if he really cared or was just making sure I hadn't been drinking. He returned my docs and told me to watch my speed. Nice encounter. I'd recommend the drive-in too. Although it's a little small, there are not too many to choose from these days.
One Shot

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:59 pm
by Target1911
Sounds like a good stop to me.

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:38 am
by The Annoyed Man
Sounds like a trouble free stop.

I have a question of practicality for you guys, since I haven't been stopped yet and don't plan to, but you never know...

If the officer had told me to put my pistol in the center console, I would have had to truthfully answer, "sir, it won't fit in there. Is there something else you would like me to do with it?" I drive a 2002 Nissan Pathfinder, and it has a small center console, but it won't hold a 3" 1911, let alone the pistol and holster.

I fully understand and support the officer's desire to have me remove the pistol before stepping out of the vehicle, but the only possible way I can think of to do that is to place it on the dashboard or on the roof before getting out. But, particularly if my wife is riding shotgun and my son is in the back seat, either of those alternatives still leaves the pistol within easy reach of either me or them, which I am sure the officer would want to avoid.

If any LEOs on this board would care to answer this question, I would be appreciative. Like I said, I don't plan to get stopped, but you never know.

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:58 am
by Disturbed
One Shot wrote:Not sure if he really cared or was just making sure I hadn't been drinking.


Probly a little of both. Great Stop BTW.
:anamatedbanana

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by srothstein
Annoyed man, I think your idea of asking what else he would like you to do would work. After all, he can't tell you to put something where it won't pyhsically fit.

I would help more but I really don't think about it that much. I don't see the need to disarm a person in most stops. I might (not sure but might) if I were doing DWI tests, but so far that has not happened.

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:43 pm
by KD5NRH
srothstein wrote:After all, he can't tell you to put something where it won't pyhsically fit.
Why not? I've told a cop to do that before :mrgreen:

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:17 pm
by RPBrown
The Annoyed Man wrote:Sounds like a trouble free stop.

I have a question of practicality for you guys, since I haven't been stopped yet and don't plan to, but you never know...

If the officer had told me to put my pistol in the center console, I would have had to truthfully answer, "sir, it won't fit in there. Is there something else you would like me to do with it?" I drive a 2002 Nissan Pathfinder, and it has a small center console, but it won't hold a 3" 1911, let alone the pistol and holster.

I fully understand and support the officer's desire to have me remove the pistol before stepping out of the vehicle, but the only possible way I can think of to do that is to place it on the dashboard or on the roof before getting out. But, particularly if my wife is riding shotgun and my son is in the back seat, either of those alternatives still leaves the pistol within easy reach of either me or them, which I am sure the officer would want to avoid.

If any LEOs on this board would care to answer this question, I would be appreciative. Like I said, I don't plan to get stopped, but you never know.

Odd. I have (the wife has I should say) an 01 Pathfinder with a split console and my full size 1911 fits in the lower section of it.

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:23 pm
by The Annoyed Man
RPBrown wrote:Odd. I have (the wife has I should say) an 01 Pathfinder with a split console and my full size 1911 fits in the lower section of it.
Is yours (I mean, your wife's :lol: ) an LE or SE? I don't know if it would make any difference, but mine is an SE. I have a split console too, but it really didn't want to close all the way and latch with a commander sized 1911 in it. Neither would my similarly sized USP Compact fit any better. However, on reading your answer, I realized that I never checked to see if my 3" Kimber would fit, so I went outside and checked it, and lo and behold it does fit. Problem solved.

Re: First LEO contact

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:28 pm
by RPBrown
The Annoyed Man wrote:
RPBrown wrote:Odd. I have (the wife has I should say) an 01 Pathfinder with a split console and my full size 1911 fits in the lower section of it.
LE or SE? I don't know if it would make any difference, but mine is an SE. I have a split console too, but it really didn't want to close all the way and latch with a commander sized 1911 in it.
LE I think. I may be wrong as she is not here and I can't look. I have used the lower part for my 1911 from time to time. It is tight but does fit.