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Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:56 pm
by mondo2000
I just received my CHL about a month ago and had planned on keeping it in my truck when I had to go into work. My employer does not allows weapons on the premises but they do not own the parking lot so I can keep it in my truck. That was my plan when I applied for my CHL in Feb, but since then I got tired of using so much gasoline that I decided to buy a motorbike.

It is a small 150cc scooter that I got pretty cheap and has a large area under the seat for storage. The problem is that I want the weapon to be on me and not in the seat compartment in case I need to use it, but I also need some type of concealed holster that allows me to take it off when I get off the bike and store it in the seat compartment when I have to go into work. I was looking at the fanny packs but they seem so obvious at what is being carried, and I need something that is not noticeable since I don't want it to get stolen.

I carry a Bersa .380 for now but am planning on getting a .45 by the end of the year.

Any ideas on a holster I can get?

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:05 pm
by DoubleJ
fanny pack might be the easiest thing. keep it in the pack whilst you are riding, and when you arrive, toss the whole enchilada in the seat compartment. They're only obvious to other CHL'ers who use'em.

the seat compartment locks, right?

I genuinely can't think of a better way, off the top of my head.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:09 pm
by WarHawk-AVG
I wear a Crossbreed ST, pistol rides just fine to where I need to go, never afraid to loose it, retention on that thing is awesome, get to parking lot, squeeze close to bike, un-holster and put in saddlebag wrapped in a towel, when I come out, I unwrap it and re-holster.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:15 pm
by mondo2000
DoubleJ wrote:fanny pack might be the easiest thing. keep it in the pack whilst you are riding, and when you arrive, toss the whole enchilada in the seat compartment. They're only obvious to other CHL'ers who use'em.

the seat compartment locks, right?

I genuinely can't think of a better way, off the top of my head.
Yes, the compartment locks. Not the best lock which is why I don't want some curious person wondering what I keep in a fanny pack. I guess a fanny pack is the best option. I will have to look around for one that is small and inconspicuous.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:38 pm
by anygunanywhere
Yup. A fanny pack just might be what you need to go along with that hog you're riding.

:biggrinjester:

Anygunanywhere

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:26 pm
by amber
mondo2000 wrote:I was looking at the fanny packs but they seem so obvious at what is being carried, and I need something that is not noticeable since I don't want it to get stolen.
It's better than someone seeing a gun in a holster and knowing for sure what's under the seat.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:34 pm
by mondo2000
amber wrote:
mondo2000 wrote:I was looking at the fanny packs but they seem so obvious at what is being carried, and I need something that is not noticeable since I don't want it to get stolen.
It's better than someone seeing a gun in a holster and knowing for sure what's under the seat.
That is true and why I considered a fanny pack at first. It would be illegal to pull my pistol from my IWB and stow it away under the seat.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:00 pm
by NcongruNt
mondo2000 wrote:
amber wrote:
mondo2000 wrote:I was looking at the fanny packs but they seem so obvious at what is being carried, and I need something that is not noticeable since I don't want it to get stolen.
It's better than someone seeing a gun in a holster and knowing for sure what's under the seat.
That is true and why I considered a fanny pack at first. It would be illegal to pull my pistol from my IWB and stow it away under the seat.
Well, that really depends on how you do it. If you take precautions to keep the weapon concealed when transferring it, this can be done legally. I have encountered the same issue when having to disarm before entering a prohibited place (such as a school building) and can successfully transfer from holster to a backpack in my trunk, using my cover garment to conceal the gun during transfer. This is, however, not ideal, and when I have advanced knowledge that I will be going to such a place, I transfer the gun and holster to my backpack before I leave and keep the bag on my passenger seat so that it is immediately accessible. When I arrive, I simply transfer my bag to my trunk (which can only be unlocked with a key, no release inside the car) and go about my way. This would be roughly equivalent to the fanny pack solution discussed above, and seems to be the best solution for you in this situation.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:22 pm
by txmatt
Maybe someone will recall the name of those square plain view concealment holsters that someone posted here awhile back. This is one use I could see for them. I think the might be a little less obvious than a fanny pack- they kind of look like a really big PDA or something.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:35 pm
by Excaliber

Maybe someone will recall the name of those square plain view concealment holsters that someone posted here awhile back.
You may be thinking of the Safepacker by Wilderness Products. It's a quality piece of kit. Check out the various sizes at:

http://store.thewilderness.com/product_ ... 95eca8b456

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:53 pm
by txmatt
Excaliber wrote:

Maybe someone will recall the name of those square plain view concealment holsters that someone posted here awhile back.
You may be thinking of the Safepacker by Wilderness Products. It's a quality piece of kit. Check out the various sizes at:

http://store.thewilderness.com/product_ ... 95eca8b456
That would be the one. Doesn't seem as obvious as a fanny pack to me for whatever reason and looks like it would be secure enough for use on a motorbike, but I have no personal experience with this holster.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:09 pm
by HerbM
Also for transfer you can build a routine that looks like something else. For the towel wrap, remove it from the compartment (or trunk) and wipe your face, face shield or hands as if you are just "cleaning up" after a ride or doing something in the trunk. In a smooth motion take the towel to the firearm and retrieve it already semi-wrapped. Finish folding the towel and replace it (now with the firearm inside) back in the lockable compartment. If you had an ankle holster you could wipe your shoes or boots, etc.

All natural. Nothing happening. Nothing to see here.

Seriously, I recommend a small study of close up magic, i.e., sleight of hand, if you have never done that. Most of it is in angles, being natural, and having a 'patter' if you are in close proximity to other people, talking and natural facial expressions while doing something else with one or both hands.

You can transfer most anything right in front of someone, especially if they aren't looking for it, and you don't have to be a professional magician if you just have a casual or accidental audience.

Also, to keep it natural, do your rubber necking to find the observers and angles BEFORE you get off the bike, and as you walk around before you open the compartment (or trunk) so that when you are doing the actual transfer you don't look like you are "checking your six" or look furtive and guilty. Doing it early you can look in every direction just by the natural motion of moving around the vehicle -- besides, you just arrived in a new place and it's good to know who is there and what they are doing.

Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:47 am
by CompVest
I would consider a better lock on your seat compartment if possible too.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:06 am
by srothstein
In addition to the above suggestions, I might add that a little camouflage can work wonders. No, not a camo pattern on the cloth, but say a fanny pack that you have sewn a "Canon" or "Nikon" label to. it makes people think it is a camera pack instead of just screamin g gun like you might think they do.

Re: Mobile conceal on a motorbike

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:12 am
by Pinkycatcher
srothstein wrote:In addition to the above suggestions, I might add that a little camouflage can work wonders. No, not a camo pattern on the cloth, but say a fanny pack that you have sewn a "Canon" or "Nikon" label to. it makes people think it is a camera pack instead of just screamin g gun like you might think they do.
Or a Glock sign when you're really carrying a Taurus