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"Not for children..."

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:36 pm
by quidni
Juárez says crime sites are not for children

Somewhat related to one of the reasons why I have a CHL, and why my husband is glad that I carry... there's too much violence just a few miles from us, across the border.

But it sickens me that some folks are now viewing this as family entertainment...

:banghead:

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:42 am
by Pinkycatcher
What kind of parents take children to see corpses and murder scenes as entertainment?....... :headscratch

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:43 am
by jimlongley
Reminds me a little of when I was a volunteer fireman and EMT a long time ago. My wife was out at a meeting and my young son and I were home alone when call came in for a wreck and a victim extrication. Being one of the few, at that time, with the specific training on the equipment that would be involved, and knowing that there would be members of our ladies' auxilliary (those were not yet politically correct times) at the scene, I didn't hesitate to pop my son into his car seat and respond directly to the scene.

My friend Carol, who later became one of our first female firefighters, was already there when I arrived, and I turned my son, who knew her, over to her care while I got busy doing what was needed to attempt to save a person's life who had done something stupid.

After the excitement had died down and the ambulance and coroner's poeple had left, we were sitting on the back step of one of the fire vehicles having some of the coffee that the LA had brought to the scene, when my son piped up and queried all assembled what all the excitement and rush was about, after all, the person was dead.

Up until that time I had never really considered the psychological implications of taking him to fires and rescues, which had not happened before that either, or that he might actually have a concept of death and its finality at his young age. We had a nice long philisophical discussion about it on the way home.

As an aside, just to show that kids of any age will still be kids, he was still undergoing toilet training at the time, pretty much having completed the course, and before we left the scene he "had to go" and I let him do so on the lawn of the NY State Thruway Authority headquarters, assuring him that sometimes, in a real emergeny, it was ok to go in the bushes rather than a toilet. A couple of days later my wife nailed me as I came in the door: "Did you tell Jamie it was alright to go on the living room floor if it was an emergency?" Of course not, but I hadn't fully covered the fuzzy concept of just how far away a toilet had to be to constitute an emergency.

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:46 pm
by Bart
I agree crime scenes are not family entertainment. I think a bigger problem is those "murder scenes that have become a daily occurrence in the troubled city."

I doubt Jim's son was damaged by his experience because Jim was there to save lives, not gawk at bodies. Country kids know where hamburgers and fried chicken comes from and it didn't scar us to know about life and death at an early age, not to mention learning other facts of life.

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:39 pm
by dukalmighty
I think kids today see more violence and bloodshed in the video games we call harmless entertainment,I don't think anything that marginalizes or seems to make fun out of violence is doing inpressionable kids any good

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:03 pm
by anygunanywhere
When I was doing the firefighter paramedic thing I took my sons on accident scenes when they reached driving age.

It made an impression.

The time we Life Flighted 5 kids who had been thrown from a Jeep. Drunk driver.

Head-on collision with multiple fatalities.

Lots of others.

My oldest went on a water rescue where he watched me resuscitate a drowning victim. Worked the code right there on the park bulkhead. We brought the guy back and made it to the hospital with a pulse and sinous rythm but he didn't make it to ICU.

Anygunanywhere

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:55 pm
by lunchbox
dukalmighty wrote:I think kids today see more violence and bloodshed in the video games we call harmless entertainment,I don't think anything that marginalizes or seems to make fun out of violence is doing inpressionable kids any good

dont be so quick to assume that
I read where some teenagers who went to shoot up some people (much like the columbine shootings)
and after the first shots were fired the blood spatter and death was real and not like in the movies and video games they quickly lost the stomach for it and were apprehended

also think about the guys in the service now that are young enough that there have been violent movies and games all their life and the go to war and come back scarred with the images they have seen many they caused directly

Re: "Not for children..."

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:00 pm
by Venus Pax
Bart wrote:Country kids know where hamburgers and fried chicken comes from and it didn't scar us to know about life and death at an early age, not to mention learning other facts of life.
A person's murdered family member or friend is different than an animal that is (hopefully, humanely) slaughtered for food. Taking a child somewhere to gawk at a murder victim's body is an extreme insult to the victim's memory and to the people that loved the person. I would imagine this to be a similar mind-set to the people that watched people murder one another for entertainment in ancient Rome.

No wonder murder is so prevalent in Juarez; it's considered entertainment.