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WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:47 am
by pbwalker
You'd think they were part of the "Al Franken Television Network" with their fear mongering and sensationalism.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.as ... eaa248f273
Law enforcement officers say "Cheaper Than Dirt.com" could make it easier for buyers and sellers to lie about who they are.
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.as ... 90bcfe06ea
We wanted to try something. With a Northside ISD police officer's help, we put a group of children in a room with a real, unloaded gun to see what they would do when they thought no one was watching.

Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:52 am
by LedJedi
pbwalker wrote:
http://www.woai.com/news/local/story.as ... 90bcfe06ea
We wanted to try something. With a Northside ISD police officer's help, we put a group of children in a room with a real, unloaded gun to see what they would do when they thought no one was watching.
I wonder how many of those kids got adequate training from their parents on gun safety.
I'd put my 8 year old daughter in that test any day of the week.
Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:38 pm
by Houston1944
This type of test pops up every few years and people act surprised at the results. You would get the same reaction from the kids if you used a large knife, a gun or a telephone. Kids are going to be kids. I would not leave a loaded gun in a room with kids, but there is also a lot of other things I would not leave in a room with them so what is the big deal about this test.
Any one that has ever been involved with youth baseball knows the most dangerous thing in the world is a 6 to 8 year old with a baseball bat in his hands. Does this mean we need to require soft rubber mats to be locked to the outside of bats? Of course not, we supervise them during practice and games and teach them how to be safe with the required equipment. Guns are just one of many other dangerous things kids need to taught how to deal with.
Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:01 pm
by bpet
Makes you wonder doesn't it?
Wonder what would happen if you put a bunch of reporters in a room with a new camera (unloaded of course).

Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:19 pm
by pbwalker
Houston1944 wrote:This type of test pops up every few years and people act surprised at the results. You would get the same reaction from the kids if you used a large knife, a gun or a telephone. Kids are going to be kids. I would not leave a loaded gun in a room with kids, but there is also a lot of other things I would not leave in a room with them so what is the big deal about this test.
Any one that has ever been involved with youth baseball knows the most dangerous thing in the world is a 6 to 8 year old with a baseball bat in his hands. Does this mean we need to require soft rubber mats to be locked to the outside of bats? Of course not, we supervise them during practice and games and teach them how to be safe with the required equipment. Guns are just one of many other dangerous things kids need to taught how to deal with.
What gets me is the way the story was done. Did they give any background on whether or not the parents provided any prior education? Nope. Did they even give any insight on the fact that gun safety is continuing education? Nope. Their 'remedy' to this 'horrible situation' is to keep your guns locked in a safe, keep all ammo away from the guns, and keep them up in a closet or some other high place.
Did they bring up the 4 rules? Only once. When they were showing clips of the officer giving initial instruction. Instead of telling viewers that they need to drill it in to their childs head, they want to go with the "leave yourself defenseless" route.
There was one girl in the video who, once the little boy picked up the gun ans started 'shooting', ran for cover and hid. Smart little girl. I;ve got my first child on the way (a girl) and believe me, she will be exposed to guns early on and will understand that they are lethal and not toys.
Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:00 pm
by LedJedi
pbwalker wrote:
What gets me is the way the story was done. Did they give any background on whether or not the parents provided any prior education? Nope. Did they even give any insight on the fact that gun safety is continuing education? Nope. Their 'remedy' to this 'horrible situation' is to keep your guns locked in a safe, keep all ammo away from the guns, and keep them up in a closet or some other high place.
Did they bring up the 4 rules? Only once. When they were showing clips of the officer giving initial instruction. Instead of telling viewers that they need to drill it in to their childs head, they want to go with the "leave yourself defenseless" route.
There was one girl in the video who, once the little boy picked up the gun ans started 'shooting', ran for cover and hid. Smart little girl. I;ve got my first child on the way (a girl) and believe me, she will be exposed to guns early on and will understand that they are lethal and not toys.
ummm... you're surprised that the mainstream media is biased against guns?.... really?

Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:02 pm
by pbwalker
LedJedi wrote:
ummm... you're surprised that the mainstream media is biased against guns?.... really?

Well, no...but it still sucks...

Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:21 pm
by Excaliber
After reading the article, it appears they proved 2 things:
1. Children are curious and will pick up and examine objects they don't often get to handle unless they have been trained otherwise.
2. The parents of these particular children were negligent in failing to successfully train their children about how to act around a gun.
I see nothing new or noteworthy here. It's just another media effort to frighten the horses and stampede them toward more regulation. The Heller case has set back those efforts substantially, so you can expect to see an increase in quantity and decrease in quality in the media's efforts in this area, particularly in this election year.
Re: WOAI News in San Antonio
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:39 pm
by LedJedi
Well said Excalibur (as usual)...
this reminds me of the parable of the sheep for some reason... i think it was posted a while back. i'll give it a bump so we can re-read it. If not i'll re-post. It's on my door at work.