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stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:37 am
by 02transam
not sure if this has been posted but several states are passing the ammunition acccountability legislation. in short micro-laser encoding casing and bullet. heres the link.
http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:08 am
by nuparadigm
The link doesn't work. This sort of thing is not going to happen here and the notion of it is probably the fantasy of some Leftist who takes him/herself way too seriously.
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:17 am
by Liberty
nuparadigm wrote:The link doesn't work. This sort of thing is not going to happen here and the notion of it is probably the fantasy of some Leftist who takes him/herself way too seriously.
Works here.
Anyone can write a bill, but I hope this one doesn't find acceptance. Reloaders migh find they need too get this micro engraving equipment.
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:54 am
by bdickens
This is the latest tactic of the enemies of freedom. Since even non-gun people are figuring out that gun control doesn't work, they are trying a new tactic to keep the peasants disarmed: ammunition control. No ammo, no shooting.
A recent American Rifleman has an article on this nonsense that details the technology behind it and does a pretty good job of debunking the usefulness of the idea. Any of you who have friends or relatives in the states this is coming up in should encourage them to read the article and then contact their state reps.
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:33 pm
by atxgun
Reminds me of the Chris Rock bit (cleansed for forum guidelines):
"Gun control? We need bullet control! I think every bullet should cost $5,000. Because if a bullet cost $5,000, we wouldn't have any innocent bystanders. That'd be it. Every time someone gets shot, people will be like, ''Dang, he must have did something. Shoot, they put $20,000 worth of bullets in him.'' People would think before they killed somebody, if a bullet cost $5,000. ''Man, l would blow your head off, if l could afford it. l'm gonna get me another job, l'm gonna start saving some money, and you're a dead man! You better hope l can't get no bullets on layaway.'' So even if you get shot by a stray bullet, you won't have to go to no doctor
to get it taken out. Whoever shot you would take their bullet back. ''l believe you got my property.''"
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:16 pm
by texasag93
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:30 pm
by stevie_d_64
Liberty wrote:nuparadigm wrote:The link doesn't work. This sort of thing is not going to happen here and the notion of it is probably the fantasy of some Leftist who takes him/herself way too seriously.
Works here.
Anyone can write a bill, but I hope this one doesn't find acceptance. Reloaders migh find they need too get this micro engraving equipment.
Ohhhh, the can of worms thou hast opened!!!

Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:24 pm
by Revet
Imagine someone picking up your brass at the local range to reload for a planned crime? Or maybe they'd just want to keep a few throw-down shells in their pocket to leave at a crime scene hoping it would divert the investigation for awhile.
I wonder if one of their unspoken goals really is to force up the cost of ammo so fewer people can afford it. In addition to the new equipment costs for the manufacturer, a whole new bureaucracy could be built around the computer databases, technicians, investigators, etc., all of which would need a new "bullet tax" to pay the tab...so that by the time it's all added up, a box of "cheap" range ammo would cost more than a tank of gas for a Suburban (if not the $5K/round Chris Rock suggests).
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:42 am
by Owens
This whole imprinting thing was discussed on another forum I visit back in February. Seems that the group behind pushing the legislation is also the same group that holds the patent on the technology. Surprise... surprise. (I.E....Doesn't matter that it really doesn't work, lets just get the states to require our technology so we can make a mint!)
Behind the curtain of ammunitionaccountability? An outfit by the name of AmmoCoding.com.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=338876
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:15 am
by Liberty
Revet wrote:Imagine someone picking up your brass at the local range to reload for a planned crime? Or maybe they'd just want to keep a few throw-down shells in their pocket to leave at a crime scene hoping it would divert the investigation for awhile.
I wonder if one of their unspoken goals really is to force up the cost of ammo so fewer people can afford it. In addition to the new equipment costs for the manufacturer, a whole new bureaucracy could be built around the computer databases, technicians, investigators, etc., all of which would need a new "bullet tax" to pay the tab...so that by the time it's all added up, a box of "cheap" range ammo would cost more than a tank of gas for a Suburban (if not the $5K/round Chris Rock suggests).
Taxing up the price of ammo isn't a new concept. Chicago (Cook County) not to long ago tried to put through a $1.00 a round ammo tax.
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:48 am
by bdickens
Revet wrote:
I wonder if one of their unspoken goals really is to force up the cost of ammo so fewer people can afford it....
Ding,ding, ding! We have a winner!
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:13 pm
by yerasimos
Revet wrote:I wonder if one of their unspoken goals really is to force up the cost of ammo so fewer people can afford it.
Sadly, the marketplace has driven up the price of ammunition significantly, without the imposition of ammunition encoding schema (which are ridiculous and impractical). Growing foreign economies, along with military's voracious appetite for ammunition (Iraq and Afghanistan), have indirectly forced us to pay much more for ammunition than we did four years ago. The ultimate root cause is the gradual destruction of the US dollar, which is too complex a subject to treat here. However, I can see foolish legislators doing much worse damage, particularly in conjunction with an ammunition encoding scheme.
Re: stock up while you can
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:46 pm
by SCone
Write your Congress, write your Congress, write your Congress...
They need to hear from us, not an email, a letter gets more traction. Make sure your letter takes this form, I get very good responses using this format.
First, congratulate them for the job they are doing. Let them know how proud you've been to support them in past elections and how you are looking forward to supporting them in upcoming elections.
Next, let them know about an issue that you've heard about. Tell them how it concerns you and how important it is that this not go forward.
Now let them know how you are counting on them to stop this matter if and when it comes to a vote.
Finally, let them know that ANY vote that effects our sport will be dealt with at the polls.
Be sure to give your full contact information in the letter, including a phone number.
Too many times I see the flaming letters that never go any firther than the "for or against" tally sheet. By getting in the flattery, the support, and then to the issue, I get responses (even had a phone call for more information before)